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09 Apr 2013 - 08:45100616
Cosplay Fame
Sorry if this has already been posted but I found this article interesting and relevant to some questions that I have about cosplay and wanted to share it.
http://nerdcaliber.com/the-pursuit-of-cosplay-fame/


09 Apr 2013 - 08:54100617
fascinating! thanks for the post.

it does create a really interesting argument and one i'd like to know more about. as a relative newbie to the cosplaying game i don't really have any cosplaying friends on Facebook and i certainly don't follow anybody's cosplay page. but i have heard a lot about many of the points mentioned in that article.

of course it's nice to be recognized and congratulated for your hard work but surely its someones drive, passion and love for what they are creating that is worth infinitely more than 'likes' or shares on Facebook or other social networking sites.

i think sites like this are brilliant for sharing information, advice, for taking the time to comment on peoples hard work and it never has that competitive feel to it (i may be being a little naive here but it's not something I've come across).


09 Apr 2013 - 09:04100618
Quote loramarsden:
fascinating! thanks for the post.

it does create a really interesting argument and one i'd like to know more about. as a relative newbie to the cosplaying game i don't really have any cosplaying friends on Facebook and i certainly don't follow anybody's cosplay page. but i have heard a lot about many of the points mentioned in that article.

of course it's nice to be recognized and congratulated for your hard work but surely its someones drive, passion and love for what they are creating that is worth infinitely more than 'likes' or shares on Facebook or other social networking sites.

i think sites like this are brilliant for sharing information, advice, for taking the time to comment on peoples hard work and it never has that competitive feel to it (i may be being a little naive here but it's not something I've come across).


I am still a newbie to cosplay too (and sometimes I feel a little naive to it all) but I've got quite a few friends who cosplay and follow quite a few cosplay pages on fb and dA etc as well as follow people on here. I've come to my own idea that people cosplay for different reasons, some for popularity, some for 'fun' or socialising, some for love of the characters, some for a way to practice crafts etc the list goes on. I don't care why people cosplay but I do care if they are nasty about it!!
What I don't like is this competitive side, the 'you don't deserve this fame' 'you didn't make that' the amount of times I've heard things like 'she doesn't even game' etc it's like so what whether she games or not is her problem, not yours O_O
But yeh anyway I found this article really interesting!!


09 Apr 2013 - 09:33100621
It's an interesting article. I do think though that its sometimes nice to give recognition to less known cosplayers. If I see a costume on here that is really good but only has 5 comments it does make me want to comment more than if it already had hundreds. I think the same with competitions- its nicer for the community if its not always the same people who win them.


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09 Apr 2013 - 10:03100628
heya i enjoyed reading this artical alot and even though i am new to cosplay ...so new infact i am creating my first costume for my first expo in may that i didnt know about the more competative people and am now a little worried since i have looked up an reseached craft methods befor starting my project and it is suposed to give a high quality finish and now i am i guess a bit worried since people might say that i didnt make it. It seems a bit upsetting that people cant just express apritiation for the art and craft of others due to jelousy.


09 Apr 2013 - 10:26100631
Quote Kestra:
heya i enjoyed reading this artical alot and even though i am new to cosplay ...so new infact i am creating my first costume for my first expo in may that i didnt know about the more competative people and am now a little worried since i have looked up an reseached craft methods befor starting my project and it is suposed to give a high quality finish and now i am i guess a bit worried since people might say that i didnt make it. It seems a bit upsetting that people cant just express apritiation for the art and craft of others due to jelousy.


Good luck with your costume!! It is upsetting but this type of thing doesn't represent the whole community of cosplayers, it's more of a thing to be aware of imo!

And I completely agree with Carmina's post, people who have made great costumes that aren't popular do deserve recognition for their efforts!!


09 Apr 2013 - 11:37100641
I like getting recognition myself (although I have no illusions about my skill level or looks ), but while I am pleased that we have "ambassadors" like Yaya Han, I am uncomfortable that we have famous cosplayers selling glamour photos of themselves.

I find I have more love and support for the costumers that get fame on costume construction (like the last few winners of Eurocosplay for example), than those that trade on looks. And yes I know that's kinda prejudicial of me


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09 Apr 2013 - 14:14100653
I'm newish to cosplay (and very beginner at making my cosplays myself).

1st of all as a shy person I don't personally see the appeal of being "cosplay famous" it looks kinda scary >.< (so sorry if my points seem weird or something).

I do think it's a shame that the article says that there is significance placed on sex appeal and edited photos. I personally tend to remember a person in an amazingly constructed cosplay than someone who is pretty (sorry if this offends anyone).

It does sometimes seem that your worth as a cosplayer is based on how many fans you have or how pretty you are. I've seen some of these "bad cosplay" blogs around (which I think really really should not exist in the first place) and a lot of the time, the cosplays they show are brilliant and they're put up because the person does not uphold the blog owner's ideas of beauty.

The rise of people being/wanting to be cosplay famous seems to unleash catty sides in some people (glad I've never seen it on this site). As Afireinsidegirl said people getting competitive can lead to negativity and I agree that people should cosplay for what reasons they want if they're nice/polite about it.

Sorry if I've rambled or not made sense, I find it and to put an opinion down as I really can't see the appeal of it (I often hide from cameras, even sometimes at cons ).


09 Apr 2013 - 15:47100660
Quote PandoraCaitiff:
I like getting recognition myself (although I have no illusions about my skill level or looks ), but while I am pleased that we have "ambassadors" like Yaya Han, I am uncomfortable that we have famous cosplayers selling glamour photos of themselves.

I find I have more love and support for the costumers that get fame on costume construction (like the last few winners of Eurocosplay for example), than those that trade on looks. And yes I know that's kinda prejudicial of me

Agree with this 100%.

I like getting recognition for my cosplays and photography - mostly because I plan on becoming a costume commissioner, and gaining some kind of recognition is vital if I plan to keep it as a job. And also, it's fun receiving some appreciation for the costumes we worked so hard on - who wouldn't like that?

I agree with Aeon in that it is a shame there's so much significance placed on sex appeal and edited photos, although I'm one to talk, as I love editing cosplay photos!
I know a cosplayer on dA, who is a fairly okay cosplayer, but she nearly always uploads photos of her in her cosplays with her chest hanging out - sure this is okay for those characters who do wear a little less than normal, but she purposely does it for the characters that ARE covered up, and sometimes she leaves parts of her cosplay out altogether, with Follow requests in the description for FB, Tumblr, Twitter etc etc, very obvious she's seeking attention, but hey she can do what she wants who am I judge... Blah I'm rambling now. Where was I.

I'm a fairly new cosplayer myself, and I know the majority of the cosplay community are an amazing group of talented, dedicated people. It just saddens me a little that some cosplayers think they're so much better than any other cosplayers simply because of their popularity or sex appeal.

... I'm straying from the original subject a little.

One thing that can definitely relate to the article is the ezCosplay contests held every few months on Facebook. Whenever the winners are announced, a barrage of "Of course she'd win, she's popular!" and "That's not a real cosplay, it's obviously photoshopped" comments are hurled onto the page. It's a little saddening to see these reactions, but it's obviously a matter that bothers people.

I think Chaka sums things up quite nicely:
"It got me thinking about the emphasis we as cosplayers have been placing on fan pages and fan bases within the community. Lately, it feels like we’re starting to prioritize “fans” and “likes” over such archaic concepts as “passion” and “craftsmanship.” As cosplay has begun to garner the attention of mainstream media – landing us on reality shows and in national news coverage – have we started to approach this hobby more strategically? Are we still cosplaying for fun, or are we cosplaying for fame?"


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Last edited by FuwaMin (09 Apr 2013 - 15:47)
10 Apr 2013 - 20:52100754
It's great to know I'm not the only one who was interested in the issue of cosplay fame!!
I agree with all comments so far
Also I loved this
'“I think it’s important to mention why I even have a cosplay page,” Cosplayer Marie Grey wrote on her fan page recently. “I’m not here to generate likes and become ‘cosplay famous.’ I’m here to share my work with others, teach those who seek my help, and learn from those who came before me.”'


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