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06 May 2013 - 00:57102092
Just jumping in with another point of view & a story.

I haven't read the entire forum but from what I see, people seem to be emphasizing a little that its only women in revealing/sexy outfits that get touched etc inappropriately, and should "prepare" (because they are in that kind of outfit so it's more likely to happen to them?).

But (though it embarrasses me a little) I can say that I had my butt touched/groped during photos etc 3 times at least during last May MCM expo. (Guys that want photos with you are in a prime position to slip a hand where it's not wanted I).

Now, I personally don't think my outfit was revealing or "sexy" at all. I was doing a female Ezio (as in my profile pic). And my aim was to show as little as possible and stick to the "authentic" outfit, though I know a lot of femzio cosplayers do sexualise the outfit a lot.

I had friends with me at the time and really didn't want to make a big deal out of the situation. So I let it go. Didn't want to ruin the day etc etc usual reasons.

There was also a point later in the day when I was walking back to my hotel on my own, and a guy shouted something extremely inappropriate at me as he walked past.

I would say that women in cosplay in general should watch for inappropriate behavior & prepare for the possibility of it happening.


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06 May 2013 - 07:46102095
Quote Trifling:
I haven't read the entire forum but from what I see, people seem to be emphasizing a little that its only women in revealing/sexy outfits that get touched etc inappropriately, and should "prepare" (because they are in that kind of outfit so it's more likely to happen to them?).


You might want to go back and read it all then.

We've posted stories of women and men in all kinds of costumes getting harassed (including fursuits and very modest costumes).

We're looking out for everyone!


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06 May 2013 - 12:46102107
Quote PandoraCaitiff:
Quote Trifling:
I haven't read the entire forum but from what I see, people seem to be emphasizing a little that its only women in revealing/sexy outfits that get touched etc inappropriately, and should "prepare" (because they are in that kind of outfit so it's more likely to happen to them?).


You might want to go back and read it all then.

We've posted stories of women and men in all kinds of costumes getting harassed (including fursuits and very modest costumes).

We're looking out for everyone!


Defo looking out for everyone, it's just that I think more females have come forward in the thread to share stories than men, we've defo been discussing everyone though as PandoraCaitiff has said


06 May 2013 - 12:51102108
Quote Trifling:
Just jumping in with another point of view & a story.

I haven't read the entire forum but from what I see, people seem to be emphasizing a little that its only women in revealing/sexy outfits that get touched etc inappropriately, and should "prepare" (because they are in that kind of outfit so it's more likely to happen to them?).

But (though it embarrasses me a little) I can say that I had my butt touched/groped during photos etc 3 times at least during last May MCM expo. (Guys that want photos with you are in a prime position to slip a hand where it's not wanted I).

Now, I personally don't think my outfit was revealing or "sexy" at all. I was doing a female Ezio (as in my profile pic). And my aim was to show as little as possible and stick to the "authentic" outfit, though I know a lot of femzio cosplayers do sexualise the outfit a lot.

I had friends with me at the time and really didn't want to make a big deal out of the situation. So I let it go. Didn't want to ruin the day etc etc usual reasons.

There was also a point later in the day when I was walking back to my hotel on my own, and a guy shouted something extremely inappropriate at me as he walked past.

I would say that women in cosplay in general should watch for inappropriate behavior & prepare for the possibility of it happening.


I can't believe people even have the balls to behave like that towards you disrespectful tw*ts


06 May 2013 - 13:03102109
Quote Afireinsidegirl:


I can't believe people even have the balls to behave like that towards you disrespectful tw*ts


Well it seems it's happening to lots of people.
I have quite a few stories from over the years though, not just involving me but others too.

I hope that my silence didn't end up with someone else receiving the same treatment though, I never thought about it this way til now, but every time I let it go, that's another person thinking they got away with it. Same for anyone that lets it go.


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06 May 2013 - 13:15102112
Quote Trifling:
Quote Afireinsidegirl:


I can't believe people even have the balls to behave like that towards you disrespectful tw*ts


Well it seems it's happening to lots of people.
I have quite a few stories from over the years though, not just involving me but others too.

I hope that my silence didn't end up with someone else receiving the same treatment though, I never thought about it this way til now, but every time I let it go, that's another person thinking they got away with it. Same for anyone that lets it go.


I think its true that it can happen in all sorts of costumes (which is another reason why those saying that not wearing revealing costumes will stop you getting unwanted attention are wrong).

Its awful what happened to you. Whilst its very easy to say you should have spoken up, I can totally understand its much harder than that in practice. I'm sure many of us have just put up with it before due to not wanting to make a scene or being too embarrassed. I think that's why raising awareness is important.


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08 May 2013 - 12:18102198
I once had the experience in a NON-REVEALING costume that I was hugged and then the person who hugged me deemed it appropriate to grope me. I just ran away, due to a fear of people, but people do really need to know that this is not ever okay. It is not just the girls in the revealing costumes that get it. If you are particularly well endowed, like me, you will be harassed. I want to walk through a convention feeling safe, not afraid.


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08 May 2013 - 14:43102215
I think running away sometimes could be the only option. I am glad you shared a story; it helps everyone knowing there is an issue in the first place. A common response to this may be "What problem? I don't hear anyone complaining!".


11 May 2013 - 15:16102376
Quote TheEmoEmu:
I once had the experience in a NON-REVEALING costume that I was hugged and then the person who hugged me deemed it appropriate to grope me. I just ran away, due to a fear of people, but people do really need to know that this is not ever okay. It is not just the girls in the revealing costumes that get it. If you are particularly well endowed, like me, you will be harassed. I want to walk through a convention feeling safe, not afraid.


So bad!! Sorry that it happened to you! Since I've opened my eyes to this 'consent/respect' thing it's been like opening a can of worms!! So many stories!!
I can't blame you for running off, I have been groped and now how shocking it can be!!!
Also I 100% agree with your last sentence here, everyone should feel safe!! I want to continue taking my younger sister to these events and know that she isn't going to be harassed!!


16 May 2013 - 11:09102609
200 stickers ordered, not sure I'll have much time to pass them out but hopefully they'll arrive in time (my bad for not doing them sooner). We'll see


16 May 2013 - 12:52102612
so glad that this thread is still going strong and that things are happening! shame i wont be at mcm to support it but if there's anything i can do, drop me a line x


17 May 2013 - 08:12102654
I wont be at MCM either but I'm up for helping online or at other cons if I can! Nice one about the stickers, tell us all how that goes!

Also GG put this up on an MCM fb group if anyone didn't know and was interested...
'is anyone free on the Friday? We have some stage time spare and I was thinking (as on Friday most people are just checking dealers) we could use the stage to make some video interviews- this might be a topic worth covering?' in regards to the consent thing!


17 May 2013 - 17:13102679
Not sure who GG is but sure, sounds good, Friday is the only day I'm not in a stupid costume so will be good to hand stickers out then.


17 May 2013 - 18:13102680
wow what i have read here is actually rather disturbing!


18 May 2013 - 23:53102748
Quote Andrew Armstrong:
Not sure who GG is but sure, sounds good, Friday is the only day I'm not in a stupid costume so will be good to hand stickers out then.


GG is "Granny Gertrude", one of the people behind the Totally Cosplay area of Expo. He's the bald one who introduces the entries in the masquerade.


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20 May 2013 - 19:20102836
Now I know, thanks, found the group this was mentioned on


21 May 2013 - 15:09102880
Got the stickers, yay:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4pg3wxlq9s4fyjj/2013-05-21%2014.26.21.jpg


21 May 2013 - 15:44102884
omg, love them...

i need one of those for my bag lol

M


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24 May 2013 - 11:24103015
Nice work on the stickers!


24 May 2013 - 13:16103021
I think I'm going to stick one of these on my bump


28 May 2013 - 14:00103178
Those stickers are amazing, would love to have one next convention :o


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29 May 2013 - 10:37103242
I am SO SORRY for not messaging anyone to arrange to meet up, I even got a picture of you HannahShotFirst (I was the Medic).

Basically it got to the point of me being too busy before the event to do that. NEXT TIME!

I'll be at Ayacon and certainly want to give them out, no point in me keeping them.


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