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02 Apr 2013 - 11:20100267
Is there such a thing as an impossible cosplay?
Back when cosplay was new to the UK, I'd look at things like Gundams and Pokemon and think "there's no way anyone could ever cosplay as those!" But these days we see quadsuits and mecha at nearly every large cosplay event.

With the current level of skills in the cosplay community, and visual trickery (like background-coloured morphsuits), are the re any characters completely uncosplayable anymore?

For the purposes of this thread I'm deliberately ignoring Gijinka and humanised versions


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02 Apr 2013 - 11:23100269
An interesting question. I'll have to have a think about this. Full costumes or props too? Because it would be pretty tricky to do something like a working omni blade from mass effect.


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02 Apr 2013 - 11:53100270
Quote SamD465:
An interesting question. I'll have to have a think about this. Full costumes or props too? Because it would be pretty tricky to do something like a working omni blade from mass effect.


I would say full enough to recognise the character. Props only if they an intrinsic part of the costume. And they don't have to work

As to your idea, I reckon omniblade could probably be done with clear resin and EL wire. I see someone on this forum is going to attempt it at least.


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02 Apr 2013 - 11:55100271
I think in principle no, as long as you accept some things would require modification to be practical. I'll wrack my brains though to think of things that would be seriously dificult to do. There are some things like My Little Pony where loads of people seem to do gijinka but we hardly ever see done as quads. This surprises me, as I think it would be totally possible for someone with the right skillset.


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02 Apr 2013 - 12:14100272
Celty Sturlson from Durarara without her helmet on?
Without photoshop can't really see it working.


02 Apr 2013 - 12:16100273
Quote Carmina:
There are some things like My Little Pony where loads of people seem to do gijinka but we hardly ever see done as quads. This surprises me, as I think it would be totally possible for someone with the right skillset.


I've seen a few pony quadsuits online, but they seem to more popular at furry conventions. I suppose fursuiting is the right skillset for them, and you are surrounded by people who appreciate the difficulties of wearing one, and act appropriately around them

As someone who does pony gijinka, I think it's mostly a practicality thing too - it's much harder to socialise, stay in character, and have fun in a quadsuit!


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02 Apr 2013 - 12:22100275
Quote animeaddict:
Celty Sturlson from Durarara without her helmet on?
Without photoshop can't really see it working.


Does she spend much time with it off? The helmet seems a vital part of telling her apart from a catsuit shop-display

There's the option of a coloured morphsuit, or disguising the head with fake smoke/shadow/whatever-it-is, but OK I'll accept de-helmetted Celty as incredibly difficult.


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02 Apr 2013 - 12:36100278
When I think of impossible it's mostly related to my skill levels. I'm not that great in certain areas and I'm trying to give a couple of things a shot atm. I think it all really comes down to how materials and techniques evolve, as well as people's imagination. Finding a way is part of the fun of construction.

A wise pirate once said: 'Impossible is word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit.'


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02 Apr 2013 - 13:12100282
Quote PandoraCaitiff:
Quote animeaddict:
Celty Sturlson from Durarara without her helmet on?
Without photoshop can't really see it working.


Does she spend much time with it off? The helmet seems a vital part of telling her apart from a catsuit shop-display

There's the option of a coloured morphsuit, or disguising the head with fake smoke/shadow/whatever-it-is, but OK I'll accept de-helmetted Celty as incredibly difficult.


It's one I very idly thought about. The way I think I would have gone about it would be white facepaint with the black swirled on. I guess you could do it with a mask and fabric as fake smoke swirling around it.


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06 Apr 2013 - 17:24100500
I think as people get more experienced the boundaries of what can be done are constantly pushed further and further back both technically and also in terms of the imagination.

However, we're finding the Loop Card from card captor sakura a bit difficult to pull off.....

http://www.imagestoring.net/out.php/i7752_Loop.jpg



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06 Apr 2013 - 19:29100513
Quote Starbucks dad:
I think as people get more experienced the boundaries of what can be done are constantly pushed further and further back both technically and also in terms of the imagination.

However, we're finding the Loop Card from card captor sakura a bit difficult to pull off.....

http://www.imagestoring.net/out.php/i7752_Loop.jpg


Looks like a Moebius strip to me. I start with something black or plain looking and make the actual loop out of foam then loop it over her body.


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06 Apr 2013 - 20:15100515
One cosplay that has struck me as impossible that I still believe is final fantasy x-2 Rikku machine maw machine


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06 Apr 2013 - 20:53100519
Quote Carmina:


Looks like a Moebius strip to me. I start with something black or plain looking and make the actual loop out of foam then loop it over her body.


Ooo, now there's an idea. Thanks for that.


07 Apr 2013 - 06:55100533
Quote Starbucks dad:
However, we're finding the Loop Card from card captor sakura a bit difficult to pull off.....


Not much to work on! Similar to Armisael frm Evangelion!

Options:

Wear a morphsuit and wear a large Moebius Strip (like Carmina suggested) as a halo or hula-hoop
Wear a tabard and paint the actual card design on it, rather than the loop itself

Quote Zelda:
One cosplay that has struck me as impossible that I still believe is final fantasy x-2 Rikku machine maw machine


Nah. The way to handle that is as an armoured version of Bernie Clifton's ostrich (http://www.getanact.com/filestorage/08541184_1.jpg). It would be a lot of hard work, and awkward to wear (and you'd have to cheat with the scale!), but its doable.

Or you could do it as a bent-over costume and wear a barbie-doll Rikku on your back


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07 Apr 2013 - 08:05100536
Quote PandoraCaitiff:


Options:

Wear a morphsuit and wear a large Moebius Strip (like Carmina suggested) as a halo or hula-hoop
Wear a tabard and paint the actual card design on it, rather than the loop itself


Both good ideas. (We didn't think of doing the actual card design - doh!). Gone for a simple dress and halo effect in the end.

BTW - loved the armoured Bernie Clifton image - now stuck in my head!


08 Apr 2013 - 13:17100573
Quote PandoraCaitiff:
Quote animeaddict:
Celty Sturlson from Durarara without her helmet on?
Without photoshop can't really see it working.


Does she spend much time with it off? The helmet seems a vital part of telling her apart from a catsuit shop-display

There's the option of a coloured morphsuit, or disguising the head with fake smoke/shadow/whatever-it-is, but OK I'll accept de-helmetted Celty as incredibly difficult.


I think I have a way to do that: alter the suit so that your head can slip into the collar. It'd probably require support around the shoulders area so that the suit didn't collapse, but I don't see how it couldn't be done.


09 Apr 2013 - 08:04100615
Quote sylvastreak:
I think I have a way to do that: alter the suit so that your head can slip into the collar. It'd probably require support around the shoulders area so that the suit didn't collapse, but I don't see how it couldn't be done.


*slaps forehead*

Of course! Yeah, I'd completely forgotten about all the commercially available Headless Horseman costumes that just use an elongated body.

You'd need an viewing slit somewhere around her cleaveage though


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10 Apr 2013 - 11:05100698
Might be hard to do larger things, but talking human size not sure.

One thing is possibly bits like Rorschach's mask to work in real time would hard - anyone seen one working?


10 Apr 2013 - 11:35100699
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tktcOUi-x-A

I can imagine that this would be particully difficult to do...both accuratly and practically. Really shows at 1.22!

And the schoolgirls too XD


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10 Apr 2013 - 11:56100701
Quote Andrew Armstrong:
Might be hard to do larger things, but talking human size not sure.

One thing is possibly bits like Rorschach's mask to work in real time would hard - anyone seen one working?


Not easilly done but I found a video of someone who has attempted it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHKPPxDVO74


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10 Apr 2013 - 12:08100704
Quote Andrew Armstrong:
One thing is possibly bits like Rorschach's mask to work in real time would hard


Thankfully not vital to the costume, or we wouldn't see so many at events

Quote Aerblade:
I can imagine that this would be particully difficult to do...both accuratly and practically. Really shows at 1.22!


I think you're moving out of the realm of cosplay there, and more into the area of black morph-suits and giant puppets!


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10 Apr 2013 - 12:45100706
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giant puppets!

Thats one way around it. Just after posting saw it attempted on youtube and getting ideas how it would be possible if the costume was made at a smaller scale, but still it would be a nightmare going around events and getting the proportions right would be an absolute pain.


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10 Apr 2013 - 15:54100725
I think on an individual basis there will be costumes out of a cosplayers skill range and pecieved as impossible to them, there is alot I couldn't do at this current moment in time but saying that 4years ago I couldn't have done half of what I have achieved now. So imo yes and no at the same time, lol. I like to think there is always something to strive towards and achieve. This is such an interesting debate, it's good to see these sorts of exchanges of opinions, still alive within the community.

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10 Apr 2013 - 23:10100760
That mask looked damn cool (wish the camera was steadier), and technically nothing moving/lighting up is "necessary" but it depends how you abstract a costume can get from what it "really looks like" for it to be complete

I mean for instance, if a weapon prop moves around a certain way, or armor that changes or something lights up and that is missing, it still is obviously going to be cool, but not quite there

Is why I brought up the mask, I think all my props will now have to be so damn complex since I want them to "work" more or less, haha. Stupid me


10 Apr 2013 - 23:22100761
I really want to cosplay a centaur from Fantasia, but I don;t think that would be physically possible. Getting the back legs to function and look realistic has me utterly stumped :c


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