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15 Jan 2009 - 09:419758
Gun Material
ok ive got the base for a gun *vash gun if your intrested* ive built plasticard/glue gun on a kinda pound shop gun base *its how i usually do it* i was just thinking do I sand the excess plastic glue and paint it up or do i coat it in something, im sure I dont want to use papier mache or anything but anything else would be apreciated.

Luke.


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15 Jan 2009 - 10:559764
You may want to sand it down a bit so that the paint will hold on the plastic better. Kinda like making the surface a bit rougher so that the paint won't flake off (I use the poundland gun technique and the plastic on those things is normally super shiney and annoying to paint)

-Tab


15 Jan 2009 - 10:589765
Quote Uber-Nerd:
You may want to sand it down a bit so that the paint will hold on the plastic better. Kinda like making the surface a bit rougher so that the paint won't flake off (I use the poundland gun technique and the plastic on those things is normally super shiney and annoying to paint)

-Tab


well Like I say I usually sand the crappy silver of them anyways I was just thinking for those smooth edges I should use something to go over it? or not I may just end up sanding it, the hot glue usually forms a base to paint onto


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15 Jan 2009 - 11:069766
Ahh, you mean to make the edges not so bumpy? Then yeah, try sanding it. Only problem is that you'd have to make sure that the gun would still remain solid after you've sanded the glue- so you may have to build up glue to strengthen parts and sand to smooth those down.

Coating it I can't really see making a difference because I always consider paint to be like a layer as well. Though when I'm painting anything metal I always paint it black first then the silver/gold whatever goes on the top. It seems to work anyway. And hey, it's paint, you can always paint over it if it doesn't work.

Tab


15 Jan 2009 - 11:089767
Yeh im gonna boge some black sray mabye for the first coat and then give it my special treatment with the silver, and as for the sanding yeah I will probs have to keep building its hap-hazard I know but it was only a proto-type that started to look good when i was building it.

Luke. thanks alot ^.^


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15 Jan 2009 - 11:239770
I always just use plain acrylic on things I'm painting black. Mainly because if it's got fiddly details you can use your brush to get into them, and you don't have to cover everything with newspaper.

Tab


15 Jan 2009 - 11:279772
Quote Uber-Nerd:
I always just use plain acrylic on things I'm painting black. Mainly because if it's got fiddly details you can use your brush to get into them, and you don't have to cover everything with newspaper.

Tab


Plus acrylic really does give it a strengthened quality as well. It's a good suggestion to be honest ^_^

Just make sure it's still strong enough k? LOL


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15 Jan 2009 - 11:369773
Its strong sure but it tends to rub off you know, i would usually use matt enamel especially for the handle.


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15 Jan 2009 - 11:469774
Acrylic is a plastic- if you coat the entire thing completely and thickly it will create a new layer which is also flexible because it has all bonded together. Flaking occurs when it's too thin and there are fault lines in the paint, so the weakest points break and flake off.

Having never used enamel paints myself though, I can't really talk about what the advantages or disadvantages of it compared to acrylic would be. I would like to know though, so if anyone can inform me I would be grateful.

Tab


15 Jan 2009 - 11:529775
it would be rude not to give you the advantages. Enamel is a proffesional model paint made by humbrol *or at leat what it is now the factory burnt down I live 3 mins away from it*

Enamel paint dries relatively slow but when it dries forms a really hard glossy or matt surface depending on what type you have used. Ive used it on all my props "keyblade, gunblade, jackel pistol, cerberus" and its really really weather and rub proof and theres no need for after treatment, I beleive its oil based with added varnish hence the long drying time. its a little more expensive than acrylic "1 pound to 2 pound a pot and there quite small" but its a pro job after its dried, and strengthens whatever you have put it on.

I hope this is helpfull Luke.


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15 Jan 2009 - 12:479778
Ahhh, I think I know the stuff vaguely. For me it's never been useful because of the slow drying time, and if I recall it's very hard to make gradients with the paint, which I feel inhibits my artistic painting ways.

I never paint something just one colour, so enamel isn't useful for me. I like stuff to look like it's got wear and tear, so I mix and match acrylic on. With enamel I wouldn't be able to use my technique of paint black, dollop of watered silver acrylic, rub with cloth, make look like metal.

But I can see enamel being good if you want a crisper more cartoon like finish. I see cosplay as more making a character as they would be if they existed in the real world, not as becoming the cartoon one, so my costumes try to reflect that.

Please note I am not saying cartoon way is bad, just that I do my costumes in a different way. Enamel will probably be a better choice for you, especially as you are used to working with it.

Anyway, this is me waxing poetic about paint. I shall go away now.

Tab


15 Jan 2009 - 13:019780
Fair enough ^.^ I actually only use Enamel for something thats either going to be a base or something thats going to get handled alot i.e handle ^.^ I do the water/acrylic rub method myself *someone on here showed me actually ^.^* but yeah its just something if you want to strenghthen it ^.^ actually it mixes rather well dependant on how much spirit or terps you use to cut it ^.^ as terms for my gunblade I did that as a real life piece and it turned out quite well actually, its the modellers choice ^.^ I assume the same goes for proppers *its just so dear*

Luke. I hope it was helpfull ^.^ you certainly have been.


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