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16 Nov 2012 - 22:0294039
Human torch flames
Hi I am doing my first cosplay for London super comic con 2013 and am going as movie style johnny storm , I have found somewhere that does the suit but I wanted to add flames to it somehow and maybe have a flame in my hand or hand on fire , any help would be great apart from jokes about lighter fluid and a match lol


16 Nov 2012 - 22:1594040
The first thing that springs to my mind are the indoor lamps you can buy that look like flames. They are actually LED lights, surrounded by flamey looking fabric, which is being blown upwards by air jets to look like dancing flames. You would get the movement and the look, plus you could turn them on and off for when you want the flames to appear suddenly!


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16 Nov 2012 - 22:1794041
ok, despite what you've probably read in places, there is no fully safe way to set yourself on fire without it burning, especially in a public place... this is definitely a no no for any con or expo straight away.

I can go into some stage tricks and styles of trick photography to give the effect of flames and have a small fire in your hand, but those are types of tricks that take time and effort to set up, and are not to be played around with in public.

Sorry for sounding so serious on this, but any type of live flame is very dangerous to play with, especially on your body or clothes.

Please rethink this one thoroughly before attempting anything dangerous.

M


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16 Nov 2012 - 22:3494042
Don't worry I had no plans to set my self on fire or have any real flames I was thinking more adding some fabric or something to the out fit but thanks for the comments


16 Nov 2012 - 22:3894043
ohh awesome

yay, thank you for restoring my faith in humanity lol

there are quite a few ways of 'faking flames' on clothing, from glistening threads and metallics coloured reds and ambers, through to crete paper used for a lighter breezier effect

M


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16 Nov 2012 - 22:4694045
The only thing I can think of is something like Darkshines suggested. You could do something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uUTd4s5Zfk I believe the generally used material is silk.


16 Nov 2012 - 22:5094047
From experience, I think that if you do a triple repeating layer of sillk wafting over crepe or plastic 'flames' over led strands it should work pretty decently XD


17 Nov 2012 - 09:1594057
Used a flame torch with a fan/light inside for my Lara cosplay, I just added some more shades of organza voile for the effect. Not sure how it could work in your hand though....

http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/costume/view/41963


18 Nov 2012 - 20:0294117
this dude appears to have gone down the route of cutting up a bunch of these "wigs" and attaching them at strategic points. In the same vein you can model them out of air-drying clay or papier machee/mod-rock over a modelling mesh or wire frame like this Ghost Rider.


Whereas, this and this Flame Princess Cosplayer have used stiff tulle/dress-net, though Tallia3's suggestion would work better; layering silk chiffon/georgette over led's and/or fibre-optics (and you don't even have to wire things up as you can get hair extensions cheaply that'll work for you: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-Fiber-optic-clip-on-colored-hair-lights-up-ponytail-Evening-hair-extensions-/280992201512?pt=UK_Hair_Accessories&var=580144640478&hash=item416c70bb28). You can also make a wire frame in a flame shape to sew these to and make them stand-up/out of the bodysuit and for your 'hair'.

I'm actually in the planning stages of a costume the requires fake flames too and I was going to go down the route suggested by darkshines, Kata-san and Alias.com, except that you can make a handheld version with a small torch or palm-sized push light (covered with red acetate/cellophane to get the colour right), toy hairdryer/computer fan and some lightweight habotai silk.

Here's a list of the fans and torches I'm currently considering...

Fans:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hand-held-Mini-Super-Mute-USB-Battery-Operated-Cooling-Fan-Black-/270969326562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1707cbe2

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plastic-Portable-Battery-Powered-Mini-Necklace-Cooling-Fan-Green-/330722271572?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air&hash=item4d00956154

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINI-FAN-PORTABLE-BRAND-NEW-/130775688185?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air&hash=item1e72d6a3f9

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hand-held-Mini-Super-Mute-USB-Battery-Operated-Cooling-Fan-Black-/270969326562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1707cbe2

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-No-Leaf-Air-Conditioner-Portable-Bladeless-Fan-Refrigeration-USB-Desktop-/181006263935?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=480197798335&hash=item2a24d0667f

Torches:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Convex-Mirror-LED-Flashlight-Lamp-Light-Torch-Keychain-/290699870576?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item43af100170

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1X-Mini-LED-Light-Pocket-Torch-Keychain-Cute-Flashlight-Lamp-/221120710362?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item337bd246da

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Pocket-6-LED-White-Light-Flashlight-Torch-Lamp-Keyring-Keychain-/290803258772?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item43b5399594


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Last edited by Pudding (18 Nov 2012 - 20:06)
18 Nov 2012 - 20:3894118
epic ideas, and an epic post full of awesome information

kudos and hats off to you Pudding

M


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18 Nov 2012 - 22:5794127
Haha, cheers Methos. It's just happy accident that I'd been spending the last few weeks thinking up ways to solve the fake fire issue for cosplay, might as well share tips and trick if it'll help someone else with their costume.


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19 Nov 2012 - 10:3994141
Thanks everyone this had been a great help only just joined the forums and it seems like a great and friendly community


19 Nov 2012 - 14:2994147
Just if you are interested in getting some cool photos....

Paraffin burns at a really low temperature so if you get some durable gloves from Arco or similar supplier...pour a little bit of paraffin on and you'll have some epic flames!

It's not a good idea for extended periods of time but if you light and douse it between photo shoots it would look sick!

Paraffin is cheap as well.... £5-10 for 4 litres.

You can buy fire-palms as well which use paraffin but in a more controlled / less obvious container. They're a bit more expensive though...


Obviously just be careful, it is still fire but as long as you've got gloves or covered skin it's the safest fire there is...

This would be more for a private photo shoot and not really a good idea for cons but still something to think about


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