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07 Jan 2009 - 18:319336
mod rock and friendly plastic?
right, im making Pauldrons for Cloud strife..
ive made a basic paper mache base for the shape i want but its definately not going to hold up a whole day of wear and tear.

i dont really want to have to buy wonderflex since i have a huge box of modrock (plaster of paris bandage) sitting here..
the question is, will friendly plastic cover/stick to mod rock okay? (basing it on this tutorial http://proplady.livejournal.com/tag/wonderflex )

seems to me like it would?or anyone have any other ideas for getting rid of the "gauze" texture of mod rock?
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07 Jan 2009 - 18:599337
I covered my pauldrons (see my Angeal Hewley costume) in several layers of PVA glue before I painted it in primer then the black. It worked pretty well. Left a few pieces that basically look like the scratches the Pauldrons have on it anyway which is what I was hoping for ^_^'


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07 Jan 2009 - 19:239341
I wouldn't touch modrock myself- it's really brittle stuff, or at least what I've worked with has been.

Try really layering that PVA. I made a set of shoulder things for Taki (Soul calibur 3 player 1 version) using paper mache. What I did was a layer of newspaper, a layer of small fabric strips, layer of tissue, layer of newspaper. The layers mean that the paper mache isn't as brittle, and the fabric layer (was just a cheap cotton) means that if it gets hit it won't snap.

The different colours also keep it more interesting to do.

Tab


07 Jan 2009 - 19:429342
Modroc isn't brittle if you reinforce it enough. Plus, if you mix PVA glue into the water you're soaking it in, it becomes even stronger.


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07 Jan 2009 - 20:359344
I would certainly think of using mod rock for a mold to cast the frienldly plastic on to.

FP is fantasticly strong so it wont need to be thick or heavy, it cernainly wont need the support of mod rock.

Mod rock ive onlu used once and i have to say it would have crumbled in to nothing if i hadnt wrapped it in fiberglass...

Dont worry tho im sure it has plenty of other use's


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07 Jan 2009 - 20:379345
Quote sjbonnar:
I covered my pauldrons (see my Angeal Hewley costume) in several layers of PVA glue before I painted it in primer then the black. It worked pretty well. Left a few pieces that basically look like the scratches the Pauldrons have on it anyway which is what I was hoping for ^_^'


thats great thanks, what type of primer do i need to buy & where can i get it?

ive been doing layers of kitchen roll and newspaper and it seems pretty strong :3


08 Jan 2009 - 01:169369
I did use Fibre glass hardner and resin on modroc and it seems to make it more hard wearing. Having tried several armour techniques I definatly prefer the foamex plastic technique. But it dose require tools for it.


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08 Jan 2009 - 11:129380
i dunno about using modrock as a practical costume piece... i've used it on mothermoulds and it always seemed uneven and delicate if dropped.

last expo i went to someone dropped their mask and it shattered, thus making their whole costume defunct. so i'd advise against any clay/plaster based costume components anytime.

if it were me, i'd either build it out of sheet foam (doesn't have to be wonderflex, cut plastazote works fine too), or make a mould and make it from hot glue.


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08 Jan 2009 - 11:289381
Plastazote is awesome stuff! And if you do make it from hot glue, make sure you've got more than one glue gun handy or it'll come out uneven when you're waiting for a new glue stick to melt ^_^'

I love my modroc. I did three layers of it then a strengthening layer for the edges and I've (rather embarrassingly) dropped one of my poor pauldrons onto concrete twice now and it's still solid ^_^'

It's all about the PVA glue LOL


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08 Jan 2009 - 11:329382
actually guys thanks alot im cosplaying cloud soon and am really stickling for the pauldron it seems the main article when considering the outfit ^.^ sephirayne's pauldrons are boss and although its alot more work you should probs give her methods a go but for priced budget and whatnot Uber-nerds is also a great method.

thanks everyones ^.^


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09 Jan 2009 - 05:459443
Quote ryukredapples:
actually guys thanks alot im cosplaying cloud soon and am really stickling for the pauldron it seems the main article when considering the outfit ^.^ sephirayne's pauldrons are boss and although its alot more work you should probs give her methods a go but for priced budget and whatnot Uber-nerds is also a great method.

thanks everyones ^.^


Oh wow! Thanks Ryukredapples. Yes, my method is quite pricey but the end result is very effective. Its only quite pricey due to the tools involved. The matrieals are quite cheap. The cost breaks down to;
One sheet of Foamex plastic (for a large sheet) £10
Dremel multi-tool (it dosen't have to be Dremel. Any multitool will do)£50
Heat Gun £10
Heat resistant gloves £5

I then got two basball helmets for Sephiroth's armour ontop of that that cost me £30 from the US.


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09 Jan 2009 - 09:049447
Quote Sephirayne:
Quote ryukredapples:
actually guys thanks alot im cosplaying cloud soon and am really stickling for the pauldron it seems the main article when considering the outfit ^.^ sephirayne's pauldrons are boss and although its alot more work you should probs give her methods a go but for priced budget and whatnot Uber-nerds is also a great method.

thanks everyones ^.^


Oh wow! Thanks Ryukredapples. Yes, my method is quite pricey but the end result is very effective. Its only quite pricey due to the tools involved. The matrieals are quite cheap. The cost breaks down to;
One sheet of Foamex plastic (for a large sheet) £10
Dremel multi-tool (it dosen't have to be Dremel. Any multitool will do)£50
Heat Gun £10
Heat resistant gloves £5

I then got two basball helmets for Sephiroth's armour ontop of that that cost me £30 from the US.


thats alot of work but the end result is live action worthy


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