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24 Sep 2012 - 23:0791546
Reasonable cheapy guns?
Hey guys, I need another bit of advice! For my resident evil cosplay I am naturally looking for a prop gun I can take along with me, but man I am struggling to find anything good! I've looked all around town in every kind of fancy dress and novelty shop you can imagine and I can't find anything good. I've looked around the internet and everything seems to be good but ridiculously expensive or just something that wouldn't even work like a pirate or cowboy pistol.

Now I know expo rules can be a bit funny about bringing bb guns and the like in, and I have looked but again with no luck.

If ANYONE could help me find a cheap Hechler & Koch VP70 or a Hechler & Koch USP with a silver slide I would actually consider marrying you right now. Any help would be much appreciated!


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25 Sep 2012 - 01:1591549
Ok I will start with the legal stuff. In the UK unless you play airsoft and have a UKARA license (this can be obtained through playing three games of airsoft so if you interested they are quite easy to get though airsoft is an expensive hobby :S) If you don't have a UKARA then the only way to buy BB guns is to buy them but with 50% of the gun coloured brightly.

I've taken various Airsoft guns to events and not had any problems. The rule's generally state that if you remove any magazines from the gun then it's ok (even though I'm pretty sure I could bludgeon people with the weight of some of the guns in my collection but alas this is irrelevant ) Also common sense - if you go to an event via public transport keep your gun away and out of site until you get to said event then you can kit up

So as for guns. I've managed to find this:
http://www.airsoftworld.net/two-tone-p8-gas-bb-gun.html
The slide is blue due to the uk law but once it arrives you can repaint it (it's what everyone does) using chrome paint from Halfords gives a very good effect. This is a Gas BB gun so it will not fire without gas inside it.

On further looking on the website I've found the plastic springer:
http://www.airsoftworld.net/isoftr-two-tone-p8-usp-style-spring-bb-pistol.html
Which is also a lot lot cheaper.


As for H&K VP70 there is an airsoft variant that does exist made by a Japanese company:
http://www.justpistols.co.uk/vp70.htm
but as for getting hold of one I'm not sure how easy that would be I've looked at all the UK site I've used to buy airsoft guns in the past and not a single one stocked it. I did also look on some american sites but we're look at it costing around £150+shipping so it's up to you weather you would want to pay that much. I did see a Walther PKK on one of the websites I looked at it. It isn't the same as the VP70 but it is similar shape (though the barrel length is shorter on the on the PKK, the hand grip would need to be removed and the back leveled) but you can get these quite cheap and most people would'nt relise it wasn't the correct thing. But would need work.

Or there's this which on their old website said it was £185 and out of stock but might be worth dropping them an email on their new site:
http://www.modelguns.eu/h&k_vp70.htm


I also checked on ebay and these guys do a resin cast of the VP70 and that shouldn't in theory have any problems getting into the country as it's a non-firing piece of plastic in the shape of two halves of a gun This will need work as per their instructions but this will probably the cheapest and easiest way to get the exact shape:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Movie-Prop-Aliens-VP70-Replica-Model-Kit-Colonial-Marine-Cameron-Prometheus-/180933108466?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a207422f2

Hope that's helpful. Feel free to PM or write here if you have any further questions


25 Sep 2012 - 08:1591556
As I understand things just make sure the orange safety cap is on them, and make sure the cartridge and battery are not loaded.


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25 Sep 2012 - 12:0591561
Sorry to jump in with a question of my own, but on the subject of guns, what are the rules for things such as die cast cap guns or cheap plastic looking ones?


25 Sep 2012 - 14:5891566
Thanks guys, especially you gaming godess, that's really helpful! I think I'll probably go for the cheapy usp, money is pretty damn tight with me right now so the cheaper the better I think!

@ Firefaux: You can find out everything you need to know on their official rule section here. Most of it is common sense, but it's always good to make sure you're not going to have any problems with the staff etc!

But yes, I shall go shopping with the pitiful amount of cash I have left right now, methinks. Thanks again, guys!


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25 Sep 2012 - 19:5291586
Again, never had problems with BB guns at Expo.

Also not meaning to be a nitpick but UKARA isn't a license, it's a defence.

Additionally repainting a two-tone gun is essentially the manufacture of an RIF and thus is totally illegal. So don't make a big deal of what you've done and certainly do not try and sell it on afterwards!


25 Sep 2012 - 23:4091625
Quote FireFaux:
Sorry to jump in with a question of my own, but on the subject of guns, what are the rules for things such as die cast cap guns or cheap plastic looking ones?


I've never had a problem with either of these £1land guns for the win though if your worried because if they get taken away they were a pound! The orange tip thing is a good point also. I know cosplayers whom use things like lipgloss caps painted orange which go on the end but are detachable so you don't have to worry about having orange tips in your photos.


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