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12 Dec 2008 - 18:598659
Quote stripey_dani:
BAN THEM! BAN THEM ALLLL!

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

But seriously... Theyre avoidable. I really dont like free huggers, but hey, if theyre rude to you BE RUDE BACK!
Im getting way up in arms about it. I WILL tell people where to shove their crappy piece of paper, and Im looking forward to it already xD

Itd be tricky to ban signs altogether, poor expo can never win no matter what they do!


Ban Them all? O_o
only the rude ones ^ . ^,

I dont mind free huggers,
as long as they arent the agressive type


12 Dec 2008 - 22:458669
Quote DeathGodsEatApples:
Quote stripey_dani:
BAN THEM! BAN THEM ALLLL!

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

But seriously... Theyre avoidable. I really dont like free huggers, but hey, if theyre rude to you BE RUDE BACK!
Im getting way up in arms about it. I WILL tell people where to shove their crappy piece of paper, and Im looking forward to it already xD

Itd be tricky to ban signs altogether, poor expo can never win no matter what they do!


Ban Them all? O_o
only the rude ones ^ . ^,

I dont mind free huggers,
as long as they arent the agressive type


Did you even read my post? I said itd be impossible to ban them.


13 Dec 2008 - 04:358675
Quote Sands:
Quote GunstarVixen:

But the ones offering 'free r*pe' took it waaaay to far. I found that very offensive and disgusting.

Crime is not a joke


AGREED

I find it disgusting to think people find this funny! If you were to walk around anywhere else with a sign saying 'free rape' you would probably have the police on you - you just wouldnt do it!

So why the hell does it make it ok to do it at an expo? Iv noticed this on a lot of the threads recently, about inappropriate behaviour, expo is a public event, and signs like this should not be acceptable.

In the future I dont think I am going to hold back anymore if I say signs like this shoved in my face.


*nods* Agreed. I do think any sign that shows inapproate sugguestions should be banned. Especially if the person holding it is of a very young age. I do agree with the banning of signs for the more envorimental point. It wastes paper and creates rubbish.

I for one have had too many bad experiences with free huggers and glompers so from my own personal point of view I would prefer it that they were banned. I'm quite ahppy to hug someone if they do ask nicely. But far too many of the free huggers got upset and rude when I turned them down (Sephiroth isn't a very hug worthy costume due to teh armour). Having been stalked for nearly a year means that I don't cope well to being glomped.


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15 Dec 2008 - 10:148725
Stupid kids...

I think all flimsy rubbish paper signs should be removed from people if they are seen inside ExCel/expo hall with them. Also any sign saying anything sexual, personal or generally rude and unpleasant.

Ive already made expo aware that I am willing to be one of the people that do the removing of signs, no matter how unpopular it might make me with the little people xD


15 Dec 2008 - 12:528733
Quote stripey_dani:
Stupid kids...

I think all flimsy rubbish paper signs should be removed from people if they are seen inside ExCel/expo hall with them. Also any sign saying anything sexual, personal or generally rude and unpleasant.

Ive already made expo aware that I am willing to be one of the people that do the removing of signs, no matter how unpopular it might make me with the little people xD


make sure your carefull when doing this people *especially 2 month anime tards* tend to get a little physical even when not rilled up *glomp...blerrg*


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15 Dec 2008 - 12:588734
Quote stripey_dani:
Stupid kids...

I think all flimsy rubbish paper signs should be removed from people if they are seen inside ExCel/expo hall with them. Also any sign saying anything sexual, personal or generally rude and unpleasant.

Ive already made expo aware that I am willing to be one of the people that do the removing of signs, no matter how unpopular it might make me with the little people xD


I totally agree.

Everyone else will love you for it though. I know I would. Some idiot with a sign saying "Free Butsecks" would not leave me and few other people alone when we were trying to take a few pictures.

You have my complete support.


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15 Dec 2008 - 13:388735
I totally agree with the banning of them. ^_^
I've only been to a few events and i'm already sick of them.
I mean the whole general idea is fine, but it only takes a few people to take it too far and become very inapporiate.
It was actually kind of strange because I went to an event recently at the ExCel centre [Careers, Universities and all that kinda thing] and there were people with free hug signs there too! D=


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15 Dec 2008 - 15:398736
have you noticed everytime one anime con threat dies down another takes its place ^.^ i remember when glomping was worse than it was now. In all honesty the signs really piss me off, as do the hard gay stickers again not homophobic i come from a bisexual background but i dont want to see free buttsecks or yaoi for food everytime i turn around or have a picture with someone ^.- Its not being prudish its looking out for everyone, who is that attention seeking they need a buttsecks sign anyways I found that at the cons i go to it seemed to be people who handnt taken as long as others on there outfits...hmm funny that ^.^


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15 Dec 2008 - 16:118738
Quote MoonLitChaos-x:
It was actually kind of strange because I went to an event recently at the ExCel centre [Careers, Universities and all that kinda thing] and there were people with free hug signs there too! D=

You know, now that you mention it, I've seen a bloke in Bath city centre on occasion with a Free Hugs sign. It's very scary.


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15 Dec 2008 - 16:248739
How to defend against free hugs?
Bring a friendly spartan


15 Dec 2008 - 17:538740
BAN?!!!

I wouldnt go as far as banning.
Just make more rules to keep people in line, like no inapropriate stuff on the sign, no glomping, that kinda stuff.

some people get reallyyyyy annoyed by signs but they dont bother me. they make me laugh more than anything.


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17 Dec 2008 - 10:558772
Quote ryukredapples:
have you noticed everytime one anime con threat dies down another takes its place ^.^ i remember when glomping was worse than it was now. In all honesty the signs really piss me off, as do the hard gay stickers again not homophobic i come from a bisexual background but i dont want to see free buttsecks or yaoi for food everytime i turn around or have a picture with someone ^.- Its not being prudish its looking out for everyone, who is that attention seeking they need a buttsecks sign anyways I found that at the cons i go to it seemed to be people who handnt taken as long as others on there outfits...hmm funny that ^.^


I don’t mind 99.9% of all signs but the odd and sexual ones can be offensive. I know some say it is a freedom of speech issue. Nevertheless, in my view when you start to infringe on other people rights by having "said" sign it is time to tone it down.


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Last edited by nadesico81 (17 Dec 2008 - 11:02)
17 Dec 2008 - 12:578782
Whether people think it's a freedom of speech issue or not, it doesn't stop the fact that for some people it's an excuse for them to try and get some physical attention from people, and then get pissy when people say no.

I say ban them. They don't bring anything good to the events, and they cause a lot of people a lot of trouble and/or sannoyance. I already have my 'Free Slap!' sign drawn out and ready, and if anyone offers me a 'free hug' I'm more than prepared to trade.

Edit: To those people saying it's impossible to ban them. Make announcements before the expo saying signs are banned. Have signs up on the walls outside saying signs are banned. The people on the door can turn away people holding signs. Staff walking around the expo can be on the lookout for anyone who happens to have made a sign whilst in there, and confiscate them.

Might not get 100% of signs, but it'll damn well get most of them. And put a lot of people off of making them, which is a bonus.



Last edited by Wighty (17 Dec 2008 - 12:59)
17 Dec 2008 - 15:068793
Quote Wighty:
Whether people think it's a freedom of speech issue or not, it doesn't stop the fact that for some people it's an excuse for them to try and get some physical attention from people, and then get pissy when people say no.

I say ban them. They don't bring anything good to the events, and they cause a lot of people a lot of trouble and/or sannoyance. I already have my 'Free Slap!' sign drawn out and ready, and if anyone offers me a 'free hug' I'm more than prepared to trade.

Edit: To those people saying it's impossible to ban them. Make announcements before the expo saying signs are banned. Have signs up on the walls outside saying signs are banned. The people on the door can turn away people holding signs. Staff walking around the expo can be on the lookout for anyone who happens to have made a sign whilst in there, and confiscate them.

Might not get 100% of signs, but it'll damn well get most of them. And put a lot of people off of making them, which is a bonus.


It would also be good if those still caught with signs were escorted from the premises.


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21 Dec 2008 - 10:238884
"the bar is closed" sign should definately be banned.


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26 Dec 2008 - 00:148991
Offensive signs should be banned.

Also especially 'will yaoi for more sugar lolololz' and all the rubbish like that too because to be honest who would actually give them sugar for lololololz buttsecks.

Fair enough if the anime characters in question are from a legitimate romance based series than nobodys going to mind a more intimately posed photograph, a romantic embrace or something like that.

But in all honesty nobody wants to see two people getting touchy feely in front of them anyway, be it in or out of costume, sign or not!

I mean seriously, keep it classy guys =).

Also whilst 'free hugs' signs help break some social boundaries, so does having the nerves to go up to somebody and say wow i really like your costume/character or saw your xxxx costume the other day and thought it was good. I dont think anybody would take offence to that and i believe its a much better way to be social, start a convo for gods sakes kiddies if youre craving social contact.


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26 Dec 2008 - 12:308994
At last expo there was a young girl having a full blown tantrum because no one would accept her free hugs . . . . .


06 Jan 2009 - 21:149260
Well....SOME should be banned.


Will do so-and-so for food or money should be banned in my opinion. People who want to get money make stalls for money.

But I actually quite like the free hugs signs xD I mean sure practicly everyone has one but it's something you don't see everyday and I think it's sweet in a way.
But then again my mind is a little easy to entertain either way ^^;

I think ban is a little much - Just....limits ^^;



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06 Jan 2009 - 21:169261
Quote Sephirayne:
"the bar is closed" sign should definately be banned.


0___o? The bar is closed - Is it like one of those 'the game' things?


06 Jan 2009 - 21:519262
this is an old thread, but i noticed this interesting point and felt the need to rely ^^;
Quote Monkey:


When she saw all the Free Huggers around, she was a little shy and nervous at first, but then after seeing one particular person in cosplay of a character she really truly liked holding a free hugs sign - I forget what they were cosplaying I'm afraid - she hesitantly went up to them and hugged them, then came back practically glowing saying how happy she was she did it.

Throughout the day we passed by many free huggers, and due to the fact she was dressed as Ed there were plenty of Ed fangirls with Free Hugs signs running up and asking for hugs, which she happily obliged with. She even initiated hugs with people holding signs as well, running over to them and hugging them, before running back to us and the rest of the group. At the end of the day she said to us, "Next time I want to make a Free Hugs sign for myself!"

im glad you both enjoyed that day and didnt see any of the more inapropriate signs.

i brought my 10 year old nephew to midlands expo in September as he's like anime for about 2 years now and ive lent him manga and dvd's and so on, and he made his first costume [ironically also ed from full metal] and i lent him my ouran uniform so he could be hunny sempai for midlands, and of corse there was about 3-6 people with signs like ''free rape'' , ''pocky for yaoi'' and so on, and i quite regret bringing him now, luckily he only read one of the signs and i told him that he must have miss read as it was a ''free rape'' one. but his mum was also hanging about the expo hall along with my other sister as they wanted to see what it was all about, and im so glad that THEY didn’t see any of these signs knocking about seeing as im pretty sure my nephew wouldn’t be allowed to go to another expo again, although he enjoys it so much.

It just makes me think, there MUST be other younger cosplayers that have been brought into it by family and so on, or there dad goes to expo as he likes anime or sci fi things, but if there’s younger children they'll be with there parents, who are also going to see the signs, and are more likely to read them. I'd hate to think that any of the next generation of cosplayers or simply anime lovers wouldn’t be able to start going to expo earlier? i mean heck, i wish I’d started cosplaying a lot earlier! there honestly must be something we can do about it, unless there's a group started up to start removing inappropriate signs? who simply take away any that are unreasonable, surely as long as there's a justified reason to take them away then surely a group of volunteers could be arranged to help make expo more a family event again? i would volunteer that’s for sure anyway.


07 Jan 2009 - 11:399279
Quote Monkey:



I brought my 10 year old nephew to midlands expo in September as he's like anime for about 2 years now and ive lent him manga and dvd's and so on, and he made his first costume [ironically also ed from full metal] and i lent him my ouran uniform so he could be hunny sempai for midlands, and of corse there was about 3-6 people with signs like ''free rape'' , ''pocky for yaoi'' and so on, and i quite regret bringing him now, luckily he only read one of the signs and i told him that he must have miss read as it was a ''free rape'' one. but his mum was also hanging about the expo hall along with my other sister as they wanted to see what it was all about, and im so glad that THEY didn’t see any of these signs knocking about seeing as im pretty sure my nephew wouldn’t be allowed to go to another expo again, although he enjoys it so much.

It just makes me think, there MUST be other younger cosplayers that have been brought into it by family and so on, or there dad goes to expo as he likes anime or sci fi things, but if there’s younger children they'll be with there parents, who are also going to see the signs, and are more likely to read them. I'd hate to think that any of the next generation of cosplayers or simply anime lovers wouldn’t be able to start going to expo earlier? i mean heck, i wish I’d started cosplaying a lot earlier! there honestly must be something we can do about it, unless there's a group started up to start removing inappropriate signs? who simply take away any that are unreasonable, surely as long as there's a justified reason to take them away then surely a group of volunteers could be arranged to help make expo more a family event again? i would volunteer that’s for sure anyway.


I do agree with you the signs should be keept PG. Honestly do you feel personaly that the expo is a Family Friendly event? Even if you take all the crazy signs away?


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07 Jan 2009 - 12:119281
Quote nadesico81:

I do agree with you the signs should be keept PG. Honestly do you feel personaly that the expo is a Family Friendly event? Even if you take all the crazy signs away?


Well... yeah.

The signs are really the only thing about the Expo that can be offensive. I know some of the stalls sell figures of buxom, half-dressed women but, is this any worse than half the pictures of celebrities posing nekkid or half dressed in magazines or on the shelves of news agents? Or even the candids, where they're falling out of clubs dosed up to the eyeballs of Christ knows what and drunk out of their arse?

If you're into anime, its fair enough to assume that you're going to know its not all Naruto and Bleach, that there are darker animes and in the same way, "pervy" (for lack of a better word) ones. Just like there are with films. You'd be very naive to assume otherwise.

Aside from the offensive signs, some figurines and some stalls (who shall remain nameless but the seller insisted crowing 'YAOI' at the top of his lungs all freakin' day), and the fna-pleasing cosplayers who dry hump on the grassy hill outside, the Expos are generally pretty family friendly, from my point of view. No question they could be better. They could tighten security, ban those signs, ask the stalls to cover up figures that may been seen as offensive, and tell cosplayers who are caught doing any above a PG-13 rating in a public place to stop it, or throw them out - but somehow I don't think any of that is going to happen.


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07 Jan 2009 - 12:149282
That guy on the Yaoi stall was ridiculous since he was shouting something about "anal stretching" when I heard him :-\


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07 Jan 2009 - 12:179283
Quote sjbonnar:
That guy on the Yaoi stall was ridiculous since he was shouting something about "anal stretching" when I heard him :-\


.........*shudder*

I heard him once and steered clear of that area the rest of the weekend - for my own sanity.


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07 Jan 2009 - 12:379284
Quote Silver:
Quote nadesico81:

I do agree with you the signs should be keept PG. Honestly do you feel personaly that the expo is a Family Friendly event? Even if you take all the crazy signs away?


Well... yeah.

The signs are really the only thing about the Expo that can be offensive. I know some of the stalls sell figures of buxom, half-dressed women but, is this any worse than half the pictures of celebrities posing nekkid or half dressed in magazines or on the shelves of news agents? Or even the candids, where they're falling out of clubs dosed up to the eyeballs of Christ knows what and drunk out of their arse?

If you're into anime, its fair enough to assume that you're going to know its not all Naruto and Bleach, that there are darker animes and in the same way, "pervy" (for lack of a better word) ones. Just like there are with films. You'd be very naive to assume otherwise.

Aside from the offensive signs, some figurines and some stalls (who shall remain nameless but the seller insisted crowing 'YAOI' at the top of his lungs all freakin' day), and the fna-pleasing cosplayers who dry hump on the grassy hill outside, the Expos are generally pretty family friendly, from my point of view. No question they could be better. They could tighten security, ban those signs, ask the stalls to cover up figures that may been seen as offensive, and tell cosplayers who are caught doing any above a PG-13 rating in a public place to stop it, or throw them out - but somehow I don't think any of that is going to happen.


I Do agree there however they wont do nuthing about it, i mean if they could be bothered to run the event properly, it would be a better convention alltogether but all expo care about now is the profit i mean think back 2 years ago, the free stuff bags, you got games, anime dvds, gashpon and all you get now is some shoddy adds, again i think shouting about the yaoi is about gahh but thats only because they know some little girls are gonna come screaming for it, so again all about profit, as for the figureines LMAO yess some can be revealing if not very revealing but i dont think they should cover them up because people who WANT to buy them, can actually see what there getting(aka me lol) however i do think they should do a ADULT only section were they have there higher aged anime, manga and statues to be sold.


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