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04 Dec 2008 - 21:118177
Cosplay Choir
Haha, I know a lot of people might glimpse at this and think it is a crazy idea!
It's probably because it is!

Well, whilst watching 'Last Choir Standing' about an age ago I thought about the idea of having a group of cosplayers in a choir, merely the thought of Cloud and Sephiroth dueting on stage gave me not only fits of giggles but also a surge of inspiration. I discussed it with my friend and although it would be incredibly hard to organise and hard to start the ball rolling we definitely thoughts it was a plausible and fun idea!

I just want to know how many cosplayers on this site would be interested? Or just think the idea sounds like fun. Or, of course, tell us if it's point blank crap-ola. I take pride in my ability to sing, pick up and keep to harmonies - I adore the sound of choirs and I love a challenge; the thought of combining two of my favourite hobbies as well as the chance to make awesome friends excites me and Amy(spy) to the bone!

I know (just from taking advantage of the sites 'hobbies' thing) that a lot of people on this site do enjoy a bit of singing, and wouldn't it be great for (i dunno...) a group of excellent Reborn cosplayers to just walk on stage in a masquerade and start singing the most beautiful things? We could do anything from traditional choir songs to maybe a funky new version of 'Sorairo Days' - of course we'd need a musical director and a pianist (I could teach harmonies from sheet, but I don't think my abilities would even scratch up to someone with a more experienced background).

Anyway, discuss!
Tell us:
-Yes, it's a good idea (and why!)
-No, it's a baaaaaad idea (and why!)
or
-Crazy fool! (you don't need to explain that on, lmao~)


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05 Dec 2008 - 04:418226
Probably the best idea I've heard all year!

I'm part of a choir at the moment, although it's just a small church one, and it's not particularly inspiring. It would be good to sing in a group that actually sparks my interests! Also, I think there's a lot of music associated with anime and gaming and such that would convert well into a choir form... stating the obvious there's the chorus in One-Winged Angel, which would no doubt go down a storm if learnt well. I adore the sound of harmonies and choirs as well, there's something so satisfying about hearing it all come together.

It could be difficult however with regards to rehearsing... parts could be practised alone to an extent, but we would have to meet up and practise together occasionally. I'm a semi-decent pianist by the way, but my hands shake when I get nervous, making me pretty useless in a performance situation. I don't mind bashing along with us for rehearsal purposes though.

I like this idea, I hope more people offer their input!


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05 Dec 2008 - 09:188229
Oh~
I'd love to One Winged Angel!
Me and my friend were thinking of doing a monthly rehearsal that just lasted a long time, hard core learning, but we'd make it fun as well (pillocking ftw), but we really need more feedback before we can start looking at possible venues.

-- also, for One Winged Angel we'd have to rearrange so that all the choral parts were together, they're often separated by long guitar solos and such.


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Last edited by Mocha-Berrytan (05 Dec 2008 - 09:22)
05 Dec 2008 - 10:068231
I've actually always fantasised about something similar - it involved getting three other girls who could sing and learning to perform "A Sai En" from Macross Plus, and we'd each be cosplaying a different incarnation of Sharon Apple. If it worked then my next idea was to graduate on to .hack//SIGN characters and sing some See-Saw songs.

Distance would very much be an issue though, and since there seems to be a lack of sheet music for anime songs we'd need to also find someone who's good at picking out individual vocal lines, so I think of this as being little more than a pipe dream


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05 Dec 2008 - 12:228238
Quote Sillabub:
If it worked then my next idea was to graduate on to .hack//SIGN characters and sing some See-Saw songs.


Zomg yes.

I too really like this idea. It's something new and innovative as far as the con/cosplaying scene goes. But yes the main issue will be getting together to rehearse. If we could find somewhere vaguely central it could work...


05 Dec 2008 - 12:348242
Quote MoonLily:
If we could find somewhere vaguely central it could work...


I second that... of course, central depends on where the majority lives... I live in Greater London, so could get to quite a wide number of places, within reason. Perhaps sometime in the new year, we could have anyone interested arrange to meet up somewhere, that way we could discuss our options, as well as working out rehearsal difficulties.

That's if this gets more interest that is, which I think it could well do!


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05 Dec 2008 - 14:578244
I think that sounds like a GREAT idea!


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07 Dec 2008 - 11:318305
Yes, I understand sheet music is a problem. There are sites which offer very good piano music and I have a friend who (although not too keen on cosplay) has a very good and musical ear, she can easily pick out single lines and just note them down if it's not more than a three part harmony.

Distance is a major concern, can anyone thats interested just state where they are? We could try and look into somewhere central enough, also trying to take into account whether trains/buses can access it. As I said we were only thinking of having one long rehearsal a month, if the choir we gather is musically talented then vocal lines shouldn't be too hard to retain. C:


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07 Dec 2008 - 11:578306
OMFG. *bows to nat*
best... EVER idea!!
i love signing and i only quit my school choir cause the songs we sung were things a granny would listen to...


07 Dec 2008 - 13:438311
Quote Mocha-Berrytan:
Yes, I understand sheet music is a problem. There are sites which offer very good piano music and I have a friend who (although not too keen on cosplay) has a very good and musical ear, she can easily pick out single lines and just note them down if it's not more than a three part harmony.

Distance is a major concern, can anyone thats interested just state where they are? We could try and look into somewhere central enough, also trying to take into account whether trains/buses can access it. As I said we were only thinking of having one long rehearsal a month, if the choir we gather is musically talented then vocal lines shouldn't be too hard to retain. C:


I've got a fair bit of sheet music from a very wide spectrum, like your friend I can pick out different harmonies as well. (Slightly off-topic, I wonder why it is that some people can do this, whilst at the other end of the scale, people can be completely tone-deaf. And what even causes tone-deafness?)

I'm in Greater London, in Eastcote, it's in the top left of the tube map, on the metropolitan line.

Quote Neko-Chan:
OMFG. *bows to nat*
best... EVER idea!!
i love signing and i only quit my school choir cause the songs we sung were things a granny would listen to...


Don't knock those granny songs!


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07 Dec 2008 - 13:528313
Quote diphenhydramine:
Quote Neko-Chan:
OMFG. *bows to nat*
best... EVER idea!!
i love signing and i only quit my school choir cause the songs we sung were things a granny would listen to...


Don't knock those granny songs!


Very sorry
but theres only so long you can put up with singing ''silent night'' at an old folkes home. when you really want to burst out with the hare hare yukai, but you cant cause your voice is to powerfull. ^^;


07 Dec 2008 - 16:108317
Quote Neko-Chan:

Very sorry
but theres only so long you can put up with singing ''silent night'' at an old folkes home. when you really want to burst out with the hare hare yukai, but you cant cause your voice is to powerfull. ^^;


I guess it's a matter of personal experience... I've sung in a church choir for quite a while, I'm used to having some songs that are boring as hell stuck in front of me. YES, Psalms, I'm looking at you. There are times when I'd cry tears of joy at being asked to sing Silent Night instead of "Glory be to the father and to the son and to the holy ghost as it was in the beginning now and ever shall be world without end aaaaaamennnn" on virtually one note LOL

Anyway, back on topic.


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08 Dec 2008 - 09:068345
Ahh Church choir, how I remember those days~

And tone deafness is caused by your brain not your ears, it's just that some peoples speech section is a lot (doesn't know how to explain it) stronger? I think it's if you're exposed to music and you learn an instrument when you're really young then you are like...training that part of the brain.


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08 Dec 2008 - 16:348363
Lol baaaack on topic. I originally come from leicester but for the majority of the year i'm in Egham, Surrey, outskirts of london. ^_^


08 Dec 2008 - 19:208364
Where do you live, Mocha? Lol it would be terrible if we all live in London except you, since it was your idea and all!


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08 Dec 2008 - 20:318368
I would be interesting in joining, as I do love to sing, though I am not that good at it.

My main problem is that I have to be told if I'm at the wrong pitch because I can't tell myself. Once I'm told however I can figure it out (no sense of self I guess?).

I can sing in both a male and female voice, though I would prefer to be male. (Not talking about alto/saprano here, more that my voices are completely different)

I live in southampton. I like old school classical music, the kind that sounds epic (operata?).

So yeah, I would be interested, but you'd have to decide if I could sing well enough XD

Tab


08 Dec 2008 - 20:418371
Why dont you guys find a faily central place to everyone, on the out skirts of london but then slightly more inland and then a bit down south... xD and then simply hold a meet up, and then if some one loads there iPod with songs that people here will know, and then simply have a big sing along, see what it sounds like and then change the location from time to time? but i proberly didnt think that through to well ^^; its just an idea.. cause i'd really love to join, if im alowed xD


08 Dec 2008 - 23:138382
Hey guys, I live in Scotland so I probably would lack the wherewithall to attend rehearsals in London, but I would be happy to arrange harmonies for you if you go ahead with it. It's not too difficult to get hold of instrumental midis of the more popular anime songs which in turn I can put through my copy of Noteworthy Composer to separate out the harmonies. If you decide to go ahead with it get in touch.


09 Dec 2008 - 10:448405
Don't worry guys, I live in Hemel which is a 45 min train journey to London. I think London does sound like the best place to meet up, as it's fairly central.

I don't have any programs like that, so if you could that would be awesome. I would be a lot easier if i had the notes in front of me. I've started trying to separate One Winged Angel by ear, but i know (secretly) all I'm doing is locating one note and finding a nice minor chord with it in.

And of course Tab, a male voice would probably be more appreciated as it is more likely we will be attracting more girls than guys.
but, i was thinking. Maybe at the first gathering someone bring a video recorder? Then what we could do is just get two or three lines of a really basic song - just to show what we're about, record it a long with a recruitment message and put it on youtube or something. Because for this to be effective I do want at least 15 people. I only want this many before 5 people don't tend to produce an awe inspiring sound if they're singing something more Operatic, or something that sounds like it needs bodies.

I mean, with a set up of 15 people the vocal ranges could be split pretty nicely.
Soprano - 4
Alto - 4
Tenor - 4
Bass - 3

Because you don't tend to need more than 3 basses in a small choir, even two might be fine. If there's 2 basses then we could add another soprano (as you tend to lose volume as you get higher).


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09 Dec 2008 - 12:538419
Someone from where I work is actually a trained singer, so I'll ask her about what level my voice is (I don't think I'm quite bass, but I guess that depends on training).

I'm thinking of asking her to give me some lessons actually, train myself up a bit.

You know what would be awesome- getting enough people to do this on stage at london expo. 15 people can be pretty loud.

Only thing is, I'm fully costume booked until october, so I wouldn't be able to do anything until then (masquerade wise I mean). If people are happy to wait until then I'm sure I can scrounge up a couple more men (and bribe them with costumes).

Any thoughts on actual music to use? I really love old school popular stuff, because that would just be awesome to see it done in a classical style.

Tab


09 Dec 2008 - 14:598426
I'm an alto, can stretch into mid-soprano but can't do anything too high. That youtube recruiting message is a good idea, do you think we should ask for people who can preferably already read/sing to sheet music? If we're only meeting once a month (which I agree is a good idea) we'd maybe need that time for taking the opportunity to practise together.

One thing I'm a little down about, at London Expo they don't have allow performers to use the microphone system. Unless we could get the organisers to make an exception for us, the masquerade would be out of the question, as I'm pretty sure an awesome choir going out onto the stage, and then miming, pretty much defeats the purpose! LOL I know there are other cons that allow microphone use though.


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09 Dec 2008 - 17:538433
Well, as Tab said, 15 people can produce one hell of a sound. We'd just require the audience to be quiet and we'd probably have to build up the confidence to do an acapella performance as it is very likely the masquerade staff would make any backing music too loud. I'd love to do it at a masquerade, it would mean we could show a bigger range of people what we enjoy doing.

I'm alto as well, but I can sing soprano lines if I put my will and energy into it. Also, considering the fact we'd need to choose a song, become comfortable with the harmonies and be able to preform it well it might take us at least 6 rehearsals to do one of two songs, even if they are 3 or 4 hours each.

With all new singers at least 1 rehearsal will be dedicated to placing people in harmonic groups (which...is far too hard). But yes, I was thinking for the advertising video we could just do something cheesy and easy - Hakuna Matata anyone?
Can easily be split into a two or three part harmony, and would be fun to mess around with the arrangement.


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Last edited by Mocha-Berrytan (09 Dec 2008 - 17:53)
09 Dec 2008 - 18:358440
I'd love to help out, if you guys let me? xD
my voice is fairly deep for a girl, but im alto if thats any significance.


09 Dec 2008 - 18:378441
Hmm, not too sure on the lion king. Sorry, it's not really anime/nerdy enough for my tastes.

Can anyone think of a theme song from a show that we could do?

... Why does the Digimon theme song pop into my head right now?

Tab


09 Dec 2008 - 18:418442
the only reason I'm suggesting that song is because everyone knows it, the harmonies are easy and there's a short section that can be learnt in about 15 minutes. This is only for the advertisement for youtube, for actual songs we won't do disney (the .hack songs tend to be quite choral don't they? I haven't heard them in ages though).


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