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22 Jul 2012 - 17:4588067
Kids Parties?
Now, Ive heard of a few people on here doing kids parties in costume. Id love to do something like that, but I have NO idea on how the hell id go about doing it!

If anyone has any advice please tell me =] Im bored as hell being a graduate, and damnit I just wanna dress up like a princess everyday.


22 Jul 2012 - 18:4388070
I know you already know I do it but here goes!
I started by working really hard on a few costumes, I started off with four, Ariel, Alice, Tinkerbell and Cinderella but the more parties I got the more I could afford to make!
I got my Dad to take some pictures of me in the costumes and came up with a name (takes a lifetime to choose one that isnt already a company!) and then stuck it all up on a facebook page.
I watched alot of youtube videos of the big party companies in America to see how they interact and for inspiration and decided that I would go for it even thought they are mainly singing princesses and I wouldnt be able to do that (speaking voice of a princess, singing voice of a screeching cat!)

I asked my Auntie to have my little cousin invite some friends over for a tea party so I could show up and go through my planned routine for practice, so I could see what worked and what didnt, what they enjoyed and what they got bored of fast ect.

I then sent an email to every charity in the area, every school, the library, supermarkets, everything! I did some charity events for free but was allowed to hand out my cards and from that I started to get bookings. I then set up my official website and opened a buisness account!

We are lucky in the UK that it is not a big buisness, so the competition is few and far between! Just say if you want any more details!

OOh and be carefull with copyright! You have to dodge it when its characters like Cinderella by not using anything trademarked and calling your characters slightley different names, eg Tinkerbell became Tinker fairy x


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22 Jul 2012 - 19:3188074
Thank you thats great!
Im deffo gonna look into it >_<.
I really want pictures done, but alas, I dont know any photographers thatll do it on the cheap for me.

Im deffo gonna end up asking you more questions soon. I really wanna do it XD


23 Jul 2012 - 09:3988096
In regards to getting pictures done, you could always ask here if anyone is willing to do some for you. You may be able to find someone who would do it for free.

I know I certainly would if I had access to an SLR camera. I want to practice my photography, get a few shoots under my belt so that perhaps one day I can start charging people.
So ask, because there's likely to be others out there like me, not yet charging because they're still gaining the experience =]

If you find yourself in London, especially at an Expo, let me know and I'll be happy to do some shots for you then =]


23 Jul 2012 - 10:0888100
Lurker here - An extra thanks for your advice, MissAriel. This is something I've been considering for a while!

EDIT: Do you mind if I ask how you take payment? (Also how much you charge, if you're willing to give out that information xD) Cash or PayPal or something?



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23 Jul 2012 - 11:2488105
Quote MissAriel:
OOh and be carefull with copyright! You have to dodge it when its characters like Cinderella by not using anything trademarked and calling your characters slightley different names, eg Tinkerbell became Tinker fairy x


this this this!

Disney are NOTORIOUSLY protective of their characters and copyrights - if they see it as an infringment then they could slap you with a 'Cease and Desist' if your lucky or go one worse and Sue you =/

Best way to avoid it from what i've seen is rename your characters as said above and make the costume ever so slightly different to differenciate between you and them

It's all still shaky ground in my opinion - I don't trust Disney as far as I can throw them


23 Jul 2012 - 12:1388107
Quote Numta:
Quote MissAriel:
OOh and be carefull with copyright! You have to dodge it when its characters like Cinderella by not using anything trademarked and calling your characters slightley different names, eg Tinkerbell became Tinker fairy x


this this this!

Disney are NOTORIOUSLY protective of their characters and copyrights - if they see it as an infringment then they could slap you with a 'Cease and Desist' if your lucky or go one worse and Sue you =/

Best way to avoid it from what i've seen is rename your characters as said above and make the costume ever so slightly different to differenciate between you and them

It's all still shaky ground in my opinion - I don't trust Disney as far as I can throw them


Agreed Agreed Agreed on Disney! Warner bro's are similar too! I knnow that a friend who does parties in the US as Green Lantern calls himself Green Hero or Lantern Hero to avoid a Cease and Desist. I can wel belive disney are the same.


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23 Jul 2012 - 12:2488108
How do really big, famous companies like True Enchantment Entertainment get away with it, then? Purely by changing the character names?


23 Jul 2012 - 12:3288109
Hmmmm i'd be very surprised if Disney hasnt had words with them or it might simply be that they have somehow slipped under the radar and Disney aren't aware of them!

The thing you have to remember is if you're making money off a copyright they own and you aren't paying them a license for it then they have every right to bust your ass xD

Some can get around it by obviously being non profit or donating and cash to charity but again this is shakey ground =/

I don't want to say Don't go into this business but I wouldn't personally - too many risks =/

EDIT: Interesting forum thread about the very thing we are talking about ---> http://mernetwork.com/index/archive/index.php/t-1569.html



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23 Jul 2012 - 16:1888117
If you have a company in this vein chances are Disney have seen it! They dont always take action, they care alot about protecting character integrity, for example they dont want someone pretending to be Ariel and then swearing or smoking while in costume! They also dont seem to like costumes that are excessivly poorely done.
Some large companies actually work in conjuntion with Disney sometimes.

You have to be carefull with it of course but it is so worth it to be doing this job!

Money wise I always take cash I do not charge alot at the moment, I charge £20 for a half hour appearence, £40 for an hour (including a birthday gift) and then higher for longer events, once I become more established and confident ill most likely put prices up a little


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23 Jul 2012 - 16:2288118
Ah and some characters you can call by the real names, I call Alice in Wonderland Alice, as the character existed before the Disney film The same with Snow white, Cinderella, The little mermaid (but not Ariel), and Rapunzel xx


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26 Jul 2012 - 21:5588265
So anything orignally not made by disney?
Would tinkerbell not count then? Cause shes in the original peter pan?


26 Jul 2012 - 22:0188267
Quote superdebz:
So anything orignally not made by disney?
Would tinkerbell not count then? Cause shes in the original peter pan?


I'm pretty sure Disney actually own Peter Pan now so Tink does sort of count
You could certainly be a blonde fairy who wears green, just not by the name of Tinkerbell


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26 Jul 2012 - 22:2388273
Tink is Disney owned, so be careful.

However, all those with roots with the Brother Grimm are a-okay to keep their name, so as long as the outfits aren't exactly the same, or have slight variations to them (colour, length, style etc) then you should be fine. Also, those who are real are also fair game (Pocahontas, for example, is a real woman and thus they have no rights on the name). Most the time, you can get away with the name of the film the character is from, as it's not usually owned by Disney. For example, "Belle" was actually originally called "Beauty". It's a confusing story as to why though lol. It's the names within the story which may be the issue, with the exception of Snow White and Cinderella. Although "Cinders-Ella" was the original, I believe.

However, it's best to research to make sure you're not breaching copyright laws. Or, just to be safe, change all the characters names so you won't risk anything.


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26 Jul 2012 - 22:2388274
I think Tinkerbell is more of a grey area. GOSH own the rights to all things Peter Pan, but the official copyright has actually lapsed, which means the plays and books are within the public domain to perform and interpret as they see fit. There was a ruling back in 2005 that said that the royalties would still be granted to Great Ormond Street for 'any public performance, commercial publication, broadcasting or inclusion in a cable programme service of the play 'Peter Pan' by Sir James Matthew Barrie, or of any adaptation of that work, notwithstanding that copyright in the work expired on 31 December 1987.' although it also deemed that they have no right to deny the usage of, or question the creative use of it.

The recognisable likeness of Tinkerbell as characterised by Disney, is perhaps more of an issue, as I'm almost certain they have a copyright on the likeness but not the name. One of the ways around this is to follow in the footsteps of True Enchantment and dub yourself Tinker Fairy instead. Although, you could dress as a fairy, as described by the Peter Pan book and dub yourself Tinkerbell.


29 Jul 2012 - 00:1188342
My input would be about how you advertise and present yourself. Over the past couple of years I've learnt a lot about marketing, children's parties and how to come across as professional and reliable. So hopefully I'll be able to share something useful with you. XD

First off: definitely would agree with everyone about the copyright infringement. Just always play it safe. It's the long and the short of it, really because you could potentially be costing yourself a lot more money than you are earning.

Advertising: Try and think outside the box about how you advertise. I was told that there are two types of advertising; the first is "Product advertising" which in your case would look like "Children's Disney Entertainer: £20 an hour." Then there's "Heart string advertising" which looks more like "Do you want the next party/event for your child to be special? Do you want your child to have an experience they will remember and appreciate for years to come? Do you want an easy way to give your kid's party more excitement and buzz? For £20 you can choose from a number of memorable character such as..." Heart string ads are so much more effective because it can make a lot of people think "I never thought of that, little Johnny would be thrilled to have Batman turn up to their party!"

Also, it might be worth asking around at your local council about their tolerance on things like banners and billboards because in some areas you can more or less put up a banner on a fence in a busy place with no license or permit and not really get into too much trouble. Failing that I know one of the senior instructors at my martial arts has about 3 signs in one area and he just changes their position every week, which keeps the council off his back! So if you're not too shy of travelling it's worth considering.

Being professional: It should go without saying really, but be as courteous to your customers and potential clients as you can. Bear in mind two things: first off think about the kind of standard you would expect to receive yourself. Secondly, remember when it comes to kids it doesn't take a lot for a parent to mistrust you, and understandably so, nobody wants to put their children in danger. The main words to remember are honesty, courtesy and respect. It takes about 7 seconds of someone first meeting you to make a judgement, and then that's it! They've made up their minds about you and it can be very hard to change their opinion sometimes, so right off the bat you have to show them you're trustworthy and decent.

Your service: This should already be in the bag, really. But it's always worth thinking about what you're actually giving to your customer/client. Is it a good standard? Is it worth the money you're charging them? What are you doing different to someone else offering the same thing? Why should they choose you instead of them? Again, for me that part has kinda already been done for me because my martial arts centre offers a unique and modern training programme for kids which gets very good results out of them, plus there's a lot of games and keep-fit activities that go with the training to keep them interested and having fun, as well as developing all these positive attributes. The point is, market anything extra that you can do, can you dance or sing? Can you co-ordinate fun activities for the kids? Think about things that would make you stand out from other people, it's not easy but the more you do it the easier it gets and the more people become familiar with you, thus hopefully more clients.

Well, that's my input to you. I know it's a lot crammed into one post but hopefully that'll help you and give you a few tips! Wish you all the best if nothing else!


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01 Aug 2012 - 14:5788552
Is anyone trying to start anything up in the manchester area? I figure two heads are better then one =]


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