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02 Jun 2012 - 22:5185315
Make-up tutorials!
Does anyone know any tutorials for getting flawless skin and really dramatic eyes?

And any make-up tutorials in general, for those who don't typically go anywhere near a make-up brush *cough*likeme*cough*

I just want to do some really dramatic eyes for my Lady Loki costume, but not sure how... From playing about upstairs from my dismal amount of make-up, I know I need to get false eyelashes, but not sure other than that what to do. My stab at it... was alright but... yeah... My attempt at smooth, non-blotchy, freckle free skin didn't work either... You can tell I have foundation on really badly...

I'm not really that girlie, you see. Make-up has never interested me...


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Last edited by NixieThePixie (02 Jun 2012 - 22:52)
03 Jun 2012 - 15:2285343
I apply Maxfactor Weightless foundation (liquid foundation) and then apply Maxfactor translucent powder (I'm really pale) on top. It doesn't feel too heavy and it covers any blemishes. The powder also reduces the shine of the liquid foundation. Or blemish balm is supposed to be good.


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03 Jun 2012 - 17:1985349
I have pretty bad acne and I use the Natural Collection stuff, you can buy it in Boots, it's cheap as chips! I'm fair so I use the green corrector stick (it's like a mint lipstick) on blemishes, red bits and eye bags, then the shine away foundation over the top, and their pressed powder over that. The powder does look...powdery but it's not shiny and you can only tell from about an inch away. Easy peasy and everything's only £1.99 each!

For dramatic eyes I'd play around with eyeliner - I pinched my mum's, and I'm afraid the label's come off so I can't tell you what it is! But it's a liquid eyeliner with a really thin brush. I'm terrified of putting things in my eyes and a thin, liquid eyeliner has been the easiest thing for me to use, I don't think brand matters as long as it's not too watery or something like that - and if you'd like I can record a video tutorial maybe tomorrow? I wasn't girly at all but now I know a little bit more and how to do it the lazy, simple way ;D



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03 Jun 2012 - 18:4785358
That would be really helpful, quixoticschlemiel. Normally, I'd badger my oldest sister but I don't really want to since she's so recently had another sprog.

I'll try the natural one first too, since it's cheaper. And I have very sensitive skin. Which I should have said in the original post...

But thank you both with foundation!


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03 Jun 2012 - 19:1785361
I don't know if this would be useful but I write a blog with tips and tutorials for cosplay make-up. If you're looking to buy stuff for the first time, then this post might be of use to you: http://teacuperinyes.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/convention-product-guide/
I also have a basic face make-up breakdown which may be useful to you.
I hope it helps. x


03 Jun 2012 - 20:2085366
Thanks teacup! I'll write a list of stuff to get!

(And spread out my make-up shopping range from boots and Just Essentials)


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04 Jun 2012 - 23:2085468
Theres a loadd of tutorials on youtube.
I thinkk makeupbytiffianyd and pixiwoo

they do some pretty sweet stuff


04 Jun 2012 - 23:4485472
Hm I am new to cosplay and make up in general and I was wondering. For a few costumes I require my eyebrows to be a matching colour for the wig ie Lilac for Lloyd Asplund and Silver/White for Leonard Testarossa. Anyone have a few suggestions on how to get my eyebrows of a similar colour?
Much appreciated!


05 Jun 2012 - 00:2985476
I think I can help you guys

I am apart of a make up team called Cross Over Make Up with the lovely Miiol. We've both done panels and workshops on make up at anime conventions/expos.

https://www.facebook.com/CrossOverMakeUp we have a fb page too. As I am terrible with using this account and havent been on here for like a year?

@Nixiethepixie: For freckled skin I recommend using a green based primer. I know L'oreal does one which you can pick up in Superdrug and it will help with creating a flawless finish to your skin. The green counters the redness and the primer helps set up your skin ready for foundation. I would then use a good foundation on top. I personally use Max Factor or MAC foundation and apply with sponges I get in a massive bag from Poundland or one of my foundation brushes. And then used a powder on top.

Also make sure to moisturize your skin before applying make up! Will try and remember to check up on this thread, if not please bug me on my fb page!

@Zanzibar07: There is a real fun way of doing this and one option is using a pritt stick and eyeshadow! Here's two youtube videos showing you how to do it.
Colouring Eyebrows
and there is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb3D-afzKEcCovering Eyebrows

I recommend watching both. I have used this technique for my Nana Osaki costume and done tests runs with Miriya from Robotech and Kyle Reese from The Terminator. I had to use a good couple of layers with the pritt stick as my eyebrows were pretty argumentative about working.


05 Jun 2012 - 00:5985484
I got some make-up today ;p

Dunno why I'm happy about it, I easily spent over £100 on it.

I mentioned it because I got my foundation from Debenhams, and got some Lancome moisturiser and toner free. Do you moisturise before or after priming? ... I imagine that's a stupid question but still... (and what's toner for anyway?)

And there is coloured primer?! Ehhhh! I got some today too and it's clear!!!

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(BTW, thanks for the eyebrow covering techniques! I have this problem too!)


@superdebz: Ah, thank you for the youtube peeps. Only worry is the brands that may be available to me.

I did look about it, but I get worried about which ones are good and not!


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05 Jun 2012 - 02:2885495
Quote NixieThePixie:
I mentioned it because I got my foundation from Debenhams, and got some Lancome moisturiser and toner free. Do you moisturise before or after priming? ... I imagine that's a stupid question but still... (and what's toner for anyway?)


What, is there a special deal on or something? That's such a good deal, Lancome are usually so expensive! (Well... To me anyway, I live off Rimmel London, Maybelline and all the other drugstore brands... Yeaaah XD; ) I may just have to go to Debenhams at some point to have a look :3

I think toner is used to close up your pores and it just cleans your face better after cleansing. And you moisturise before putting the primer on.

I dunno about other people, but my toner always seem to run out far quicker than the cleansers/moisturisers. So I go through periods of not using toner. I never found it made a huge difference to my skin as I've never had exceptionally bad skin, or when I do I know I've just slacked off a lot with looking after it and it wasn't the lack of toner to blame. But I like using it as I like the feel of it when applying it!

Anyway, for the dramatic eye look. I suggest finding tutorials from a make up artist with a similar eye shape to you and seeing how they achieve their look.

I personally like using smokey eyes, thick eyelashes and coating on the liquid eyeliner from the middle of the eye to quite a distance away from the eye to sharpen and widen my eyes. But that's me personally as my monolids make my eyes appear smaller so that's my strategy on achieving a dramatic look. The way you do your make up would probably be much different to me - I recommend after having found a few pictures of different make up techniques you like to just have a go and see which you like best on you. You'll soon find a favourite style of make up technique just for you!



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05 Jun 2012 - 06:2085496
this is my best picture I have to reference different eyeshapes:



my youtube is being funny so I can't properly see videos but I found a Loki inspired make up tutorial:

Loki Make Up Sadly this one she doesn't speak but you get to see what she's doing and gave a little list of what she used.

Lancome is a pretty good make to get, I've used there moisturizer, cleanser and toner previously and my face loved it.

with make up that people use in videos I wouldn't worry overly 100% with that because not everyone likes the way they feel or work. I'm not a fan of Limecrime but most tutorials I end up seeing contain that but I find alternatives. It's all about preference at the end of the day.

Make Up Brands I swear by:

Illamasqua
MAC
GOSH
Barry M
Clinque
Max Factor
Front Cover (I kid you not there eyeshadows are amazing!)

For fake eyelashes surprisingly I found the Girls Aloud ones as good as my MAC eyelashes. But you can pick up good deals on fake eyelashes online


05 Jun 2012 - 16:1385525
Quote CrystalNeko:
Quote NixieThePixie:
I mentioned it because I got my foundation from Debenhams, and got some Lancome moisturiser and toner free. Do you moisturise before or after priming? ... I imagine that's a stupid question but still... (and what's toner for anyway?)


What, is there a special deal on or something? That's such a good deal, Lancome are usually so expensive! (Well... To me anyway, I live off Rimmel London, Maybelline and all the other drugstore brands... Yeaaah XD; ) I may just have to go to Debenhams at some point to have a look :3


Oh, it's just a small pot of each. Like their tester size.



I had a stab at it with that tutorial and the one I found on TiffanyD's (essentially the same technique lol)

It's here

I didn't put false lashes in as I just couldn't seem to get them on properly. Or rather, I though I had, but my lashes naturally slope downwards and I just couldn't get the falsies to follow the same line as my lashes so it left a very obvious gap between the lashes (to me, anyway). I tried the eylure ones... But they're not staying in... You can't really see the colours that well either though, there is a gold hint between the white gold and the greeny black

However, from this I realised another issue, with lips though. My lips are not symmetrical and whilst that's normally not noticeable with the dark lipstick it really really is (I played about with angles for that image - my left upper lip is not as full as my right upper lip). What's the best way of sorting that out? (and I'll be going for a darker red next time I do this, I will have use for the bright red though, so no worries!)


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05 Jun 2012 - 17:2885528
Quote NixieThePixie:
However, from this I realised another issue, with lips though. My lips are not symmetrical and whilst that's normally not noticeable with the dark lipstick it really really is (I played about with angles for that image - my left upper lip is not as full as my right upper lip). What's the best way of sorting that out? (and I'll be going for a darker red next time I do this, I will have use for the bright red though, so no worries!)


As far as I'm aware, the easiest way to even out lips is to draw a the outline with a very slightly darker lip pencil (fixing the shape if need be) and then filling it in with lipstick.

Don't worry though, nobody has a perfectly symmetrical face.



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05 Jun 2012 - 18:3685531
Quote NixieThePixie:
Oh, it's just a small pot of each. Like their tester size.


Oooh, thank you! I may have to have a sneaky peak online as I'm just intrigued.

Quote NixieThePixie:
Or rather, I though I had, but my lashes naturally slope downwards and I just couldn't get the falsies to follow the same line as my lashes so it left a very obvious gap between the lashes (to me, anyway). I tried the eylure ones... But they're not staying in...


I have the same problem with my own natural eyelashes. They're short which makes curling a pain, and they're heavy so they always droop downwards. You just have to keep practising curling them, it's my worse job personally and I hate it, but it does make a difference. Once they're curled coat it with a few layers of mascara to make it stay in place.

People say you shouldn't do this, but I do it anyway. I always tend to coat mascara on only when my eyelashes are curled and the false lashes are in to help blend the two together. Your natural eyelashes may stick to the false ones too which helps them stay upright.
People say this is wrong because it damages the falsies, but it's just the easier solution for me personally and a careful wipe will keep the falsies in tact.


05 Jun 2012 - 18:4085532
Quote puzzledpenguin:


As far as I'm aware, the easiest way to even out lips is to draw a the outline with a very slightly darker lip pencil (fixing the shape if need be) and then filling it in with lipstick.

Don't worry though, nobody has a perfectly symmetrical face.


That sounds like a good idea to me! Maybe if you fill in the less-full area with lipliner too that will make it look more natural? My mum does that, I know, and it seems to work on her.

You could try filling in the gap between the false lashes and your natural lash line with eyeliner? I've noticed that the eylure lashes don't want to stay on all day but I think I was just not wearing enough glue, and I think from 10 o'clock to 8pm with only a little glue is pretty good.

But I think your make-up looks really good and definitely very Lady Loki!


05 Jun 2012 - 21:2585555
angel aiko; Thanks very much! it seems an interesting way but I will give it a try it sounds like fun either way!


05 Jun 2012 - 23:0485563
Ah, one side has an outward curve and the other side has an inward curve. It's like... My genetics weren't sure if I was gonna have pouty lips or not.

I'll give the liner a go lol I'm sure it'll be okay...

Hopefully (lip liner is now also added to the list).

@Crystal: Can't they just do lashes for people with low eyelashes? I don't mind my downward sloped lashes... Anyway, Lady Loki's eyelashes seem mainly to slope downwards... Bleuh eyelashes!

@quixoticschlemiel: Ah, you misunderstood - although they're lining up where they're suppose to be, the lash of the falsies and my own lash are going in two different directions, which is very noticeable and can't be solved by eyeliner.


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05 Jun 2012 - 23:2385567
I always find recommending makeup tutorials hard, as I usually just google until I get an answer and don't take note. For makeup suggestions though, there's a great blog called Musings of a Muse which reviews a LOT of high-end brand cosmetics, even some drugstore ones which is where I always check before buying cosmetics for reviews/tips.

If you're having issues with eyelashes sitting with your own lashes, try an eyelash curler? They look like deadly traps but with a good press or two they should line your eyelashes up with falsies I'm lucky that I have HUGE natural lashes that curl right upwards that blend with falsies easily so I've never used a curler on myself in ages, but I know they make a huge difference!

For your lips depending what colour you're wearing, try using a natural coloured lipstick or foundation and then basically drawing on top of it. Lip liner will help keep it solid and give it shape, but you can also get lip primers too. If not use a foundation primer first then draw on top and keep topping it up over the day. My lips are uneven too but if I put lipstick on in a neat and tidy fashion you can't really tell.

About primers - L'Oreal do a series of 4 different liquid primers, but I only use their green one. If you're looking for an all in one, though it's pretty pricey, Stila (available in Boots) do an AMAZING primer called "One Step Correct" that uses lavender, peach and green to even out your skin as an all in one primer, which also saves you using a clear primer. Clear primers are usually used to even out your skin's texture, not your colour complexion (though they do help with that once foundation is applied)!



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06 Jun 2012 - 00:1685575
Quote Taruto:

If you're having issues with eyelashes sitting with your own lashes, try an eyelash curler? They look like deadly traps but with a good press or two they should line your eyelashes up with falsies I'm lucky that I have HUGE natural lashes that curl right upwards that blend with falsies easily so I've never used a curler on myself in ages, but I know they make a huge difference!


I had a quick look, but there are loads of different brands and types! Any particular one I should go for?? Does it actually matter if they're a brand or not? Will a cheap on work too?

There was even one which was heated... I don't like the idea of something hot near my eyes so I'm going to ignore them.

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For your lips depending what colour you're wearing, try using a natural coloured lipstick or foundation and then basically drawing on top of it. Lip liner will help keep it solid and give it shape, but you can also get lip primers too. If not use a foundation primer first then draw on top and keep topping it up over the day. My lips are uneven too but if I put lipstick on in a neat and tidy fashion you can't really tell.


I'm going quite harsh colours, so hopefully it'll work lol. And there are Lip Primers too?! Eeeeeeh! I'm so not a girl!

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About primers - L'Oreal do a series of 4 different liquid primers, but I only use their green one. If you're looking for an all in one, though it's pretty pricey, Stila (available in Boots) do an AMAZING primer called "One Step Correct" that uses lavender, peach and green to even out your skin as an all in one primer, which also saves you using a clear primer. Clear primers are usually used to even out your skin's texture, not your colour complexion (though they do help with that once foundation is applied)!


Okay... so where do you apply the primer? Everywhere? That's what I did with the clear on I got, no idea if I did that right. Or do you just apply it to the redder bits? Like, I'm rather pale, but have rosey cheeks (and freckles, but actually my new very expensive foundation actually sorted that for me) so would I only apply to green primer to those areas? Kinda see what I mean by the pale vs redness in my avatar image, but that was also edited by my sister to minimise the rosiness.


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06 Jun 2012 - 00:3485578
Quote NixieThePixie:

I had a quick look, but there are loads of different brands and types! Any particular one I should go for?? Does it actually matter if they're a brand or not? Will a cheap on work too?

There was even one which was heated... I don't like the idea of something hot near my eyes so I'm going to ignore them.

There are tons! You can get a branded one if you want - have a look around in person and compare them for build quality if you want - one of the top brands for lashes and lash care is Shu Uemura, so that would be the one I recommend from brands (and the curlers are good) but they should all do the same sort of job. Cheap ones should be fine as long as they're sturdy.

Heated ones keep the curl longer (like straighteners/curlers), but yeah, heat near eyes, I'd be scared too! Normal ones work fine

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I'm going quite harsh colours, so hopefully it'll work lol. And there are Lip Primers too?! Eeeeeeh! I'm so not a girl!


Haha yep, there are a few different lip primers! (Don't worry, I only started collecting makeup a few years ago; there's a LOT out there, but you'll catch on haha)
I know Urban Decay does a lip primer, and so does MAC. Alternatively you can use your current skin primer and then add concealer, which will do a similar job and will save you buying another product.

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Okay... so where do you apply the primer? Everywhere? That's what I did with the clear on I got, no idea if I did that right. Or do you just apply it to the redder bits? Like, I'm rather pale, but have rosey cheeks (and freckles, but actually my new very expensive foundation actually sorted that for me) so would I only apply to green primer to those areas? Kinda see what I mean by the pale vs redness in my avatar image, but that was also edited by my sister to minimise the rosiness.


All over can be a bit disasterous with coloured primers since it's basically like mixing paint, putting colours that blend well is the best way to apply makeup and correctors. But for your clear one it should be fine;

Clear Primer - evens out your skin and makes makeup apply smoother, so applying it all over is best
All in One Primer (like the one I linked) - again, applying all over is fine, as it is designed with flattering shades to blend well with your skin
Green Primer - if you get one, use this on specific redness/blemishes only! Under your eyes, around your nose, on spots etc. Using it all over gives you a green glow under your makeup, which while subtle, IS noticable!

Hope that helps clear things up!


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