So glad that asexuality was brought up here. I'm a homoromantic asexual and I have never met anyone like me, so it's awesome to hear it being discussed amongst cosplayers.
I actually don't know nearly any LGBT cosplayers, though I'd love to meet some, since every member of our cosplay group is straight and in long term relationships and that can get kinda depressing.
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 09:57 | 72652 |
| Manticore Joined: 25 Nov 2010 Posts: 443 | Thats what my current housemate is. I don't get it but it works for some reason since your only fascinated with the Idea of being with another woman or playing the role of a man with another woman who plays the role of a man.
Its bizarre to be honest. Shakes up everything i know about homosexuality. I don't think it goes here. It's more like gender disillusionment lol And looking on the word play - homo romantic means your romantic to most humans or indeed humans on general which is what we all can do. What do you call it when you can love the same sex but not screw them? Last edited by Manticore (19 Oct 2011 - 10:00) |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 11:14 | 72657 |
| Teacup_Erinyes Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 243 | Quote Manticore:
Thats what my current housemate is. I don't get it but it works for some reason since your only fascinated with the Idea of being with another woman or playing the role of a man with another woman who plays the role of a man. Its bizarre to be honest. Shakes up everything i know about homosexuality. I don't think it goes here. It's more like gender disillusionment lol And looking on the word play - homo romantic means your romantic to most humans or indeed humans on general which is what we all can do. What do you call it when you can love the same sex but not screw them? I think you are over-complicating it a little. In it's simplist sense, to me being a homoromantic asexual basically means that while I have feelings for other women emotionally (and don't with men), I have no libido when it comes to "screwing" them and I don't get anything from sex. Simple as that. Like you say with homosexuality, it's not a choice it's the way I feel, and while it may for some be an extension of gender disillusionment, it certainly isn't for me. It's not about gender roles at all, it's about who we feel a connection towards. Nice to know that just like those who reject homosexuality, you don't welcome asexuality in the LGBT community either. |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 11:39 | 72658 |
| sjbonnar Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 1694 | Quote Gordo997:
Quote Manticore:
Thats what my current housemate is. I don't get it but it works for some reason since your only fascinated with the Idea of being with another woman or playing the role of a man with another woman who plays the role of a man. Its bizarre to be honest. Shakes up everything i know about homosexuality. I don't think it goes here. It's more like gender disillusionment lol And looking on the word play - homo romantic means your romantic to most humans or indeed humans on general which is what we all can do. What do you call it when you can love the same sex but not screw them? I think you are over-complicating it a little. In it's simplist sense, to me being a homoromantic asexual basically means that while I have feelings for other women emotionally (and don't with men), I have no libido when it comes to "screwing" them and I don't get anything from sex. Simple as that. Like you say with homosexuality, it's not a choice it's the way I feel, and while it may for some be an extension of gender disillusionment, it certainly isn't for me. It's not about gender roles at all, it's about who we feel a connection towards. Nice to know that just like those who reject homosexuality, you don't welcome asexuality in the LGBT community either. I think Manticore was more curious than unwelcoming. It did sound a little harsh, but I don't think it was malicious in any way, just something that wasn't understood. I am surprised to hear that there are people who have never met LBGT cosplayers, primarily because I know far fewer heterosexual cosplayers than anything else. I am purely heterosexual, but I hope that doesn't mean I get excluded from any gatherings! __________________ CosplayIsland Staff Member |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 13:34 | 72662 |
| Leolarua Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 70 | for some reason im really not suprised there is a lot of LGBT cosplayers, it is afterall a hobby which blurs the lines of gender and sexuality.
personally i dont really think of gender when im attracted to someone |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 14:25 | 72666 |
| sjbonnar Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 1694 | Quote dahlia:
for some reason im really not suprised there is a lot of LGBT cosplayers, it is afterall a hobby which blurs the lines of gender and sexuality. Just so. And what's more, it is one of the most diverse environments for sexuality which means that people who are confused can often find a label to attach to themselves if they feel the need. More importantly, it makes people realise that they are not alone! __________________ CosplayIsland Staff Member |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 14:59 | 72667 |
| JaeXD Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 1019 | Quote sjbonnar:
Quote dahlia:
for some reason im really not suprised there is a lot of LGBT cosplayers, it is afterall a hobby which blurs the lines of gender and sexuality. Just so. And what's more, it is one of the most diverse environments for sexuality which means that people who are confused can often find a label to attach to themselves if they feel the need. More importantly, it makes people realise that they are not alone! Third'd. Approximately 1/10 of the individuals I know of in the cosplay scene are LGBT. I don't think in terms of "they're easy/hard to find". But simply if you know nice people, you'll know more about them if you're nice to them. Many don't like to make it general knowledge, yet don't hold it a secret either. That's my view on it. My personal preference is.. heh, I'll keep that to myself for now. __________________ http://starchildcoffee.blogspot.com Last edited by JaeXD (19 Oct 2011 - 15:00) |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 16:24 | 72678 |
| WarriorTeddy Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 53 | Please tell us Jae, don't leave us in suspense I'm heterosexual, which I may have given away thanks to some of my downright pervy comments. I will however glomp any of you I see at expo regardless of gender |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 17:19 | 72681 |
| JaeXD Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 1019 | Ahaha, you gave me a good chortle.
I like girls :F __________________ http://starchildcoffee.blogspot.com |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 18:48 | 72689 |
| NixieThePixie Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 2001 | Quote Manticore:
Personally- I'd love to see Wakka, Ryu and Basch in a bed together It's gonna be some time before I get that image out of my head... Thanks for that lol. I don't really know what I am - I've never had a physically attraction to anyone so big fat grey area. Even though I'm a romantic at heart... Can you be a romantic at heart yet sceptical about romance? Hey, maybe I'm just waiting for someone to whisk me off me feet! Who knows lol As it stands, I don't really see what cosplay has to do with sexuality - or indeed gender. I cosplay guys. I do it cause I prefer their outfits and have a love for suits not cause I want to be a man (although there are times when it seems the world - and cosplay - would be easier if I was male lol). And I think it's amazing how cosplay can allow people to dress however they want without really being judged by it (except by idiots who, 9 out of 10 times, don't even cosplay). BTW, before anyone says, I don't mean it offensively. I just mean you shouldn't let other peoples opinions dictate who you should cosplay. Cosplay who you want and what you're comfortable with. Screw gender lol Quote Blue_Clover:
Also, I actually had no idea what LGBT stood for at first; my first thought was a sandwich. Lettuce.... gherkin... Bacon Tomato? I struggled with the g if you couldn't tell. |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 19:47 | 72693 |
| sjbonnar Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 1694 | Quote NixieThePixie:
As it stands, I don't really see what cosplay has to do with sexuality - or indeed gender. I cosplay guys. I do it cause I prefer their outfits and have a love for suits not cause I want to be a man (although there are times when it seems the world - and cosplay - would be easier if I was male lol). It could have nothing at all to do with sexuality. It could have everything to do with sexuality. Depends on the individual. I've known a few genderqueer (gods I hope that's the right term!) people who crossplayed because it felt more right to them than "being in [their] own skin." Some of it has actually helped people to discover their sexuality. Some of it has allowed others to experience things that maybe everyday life wouldn't allow them too. Maybe being around so many others has helped people to better understand themselves. Of course, maybe it's had no effect at all ^_^ All down to the individual! __________________ CosplayIsland Staff Member |
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| 19 Oct 2011 - 22:23 | 72698 |
| Manticore Joined: 25 Nov 2010 Posts: 443 | Quote sjbonnar:
Quote Gordo997:
Quote Manticore:
Thats what my current housemate is. I don't get it but it works for some reason since your only fascinated with the Idea of being with another woman or playing the role of a man with another woman who plays the role of a man. Its bizarre to be honest. Shakes up everything i know about homosexuality. I don't think it goes here. It's more like gender disillusionment lol And looking on the word play - homo romantic means your romantic to most humans or indeed humans on general which is what we all can do. What do you call it when you can love the same sex but not screw them? I think you are over-complicating it a little. In it's simplist sense, to me being a homoromantic asexual basically means that while I have feelings for other women emotionally (and don't with men), I have no libido when it comes to "screwing" them and I don't get anything from sex. Simple as that. Like you say with homosexuality, it's not a choice it's the way I feel, and while it may for some be an extension of gender disillusionment, it certainly isn't for me. It's not about gender roles at all, it's about who we feel a connection towards. Nice to know that just like those who reject homosexuality, you don't welcome asexuality in the LGBT community either. I think Manticore was more curious than unwelcoming. It did sound a little harsh, but I don't think it was malicious in any way, just something that wasn't understood. I am surprised to hear that there are people who have never met LBGT cosplayers, primarily because I know far fewer heterosexual cosplayers than anything else. I am purely heterosexual, but I hope that doesn't mean I get excluded from any gatherings! I reread that and had a facepalm moment. Woke up about 7am and realised I "Sleep" wrote that entire phrase.. must have been really honest about it.. But I do think its not something to be taken lightly or to be thought of lightly. Because wording something gets get completely wrong. I'm not trolling but I'm a linguist, specifically in the English Vernacular Lexis. And whilst there isn't a word to describe what you like- I don't agree with calling it Homo-romantic. As Homo-sapaien and Homosexual are indicative of humanity's preferences or description. Regardless of what AvenWiki or Wikipedia says. Meh its me being a stickler for that sort of shit. And I'm surprised there aren't alot of us about. Lots of flamboyant men about who are carefree and rather trollish about their sexuality (as it goes with women) but not that many actual homosexuals.. I think we need to get together for a photoshoot on Saturday with the words "Cosplay - Homo style" .................. NO IT MUST HAPPEN! ALL IN FAVOUR!? SAY AYE! |
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| 20 Oct 2011 - 08:49 | 72716 |
| JaeXD Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 1019 | Quote NixieThePixie:
I don't really know what I am - I've never had a physically attraction to anyone so big fat grey area. Even though I'm a romantic at heart... Can you be a romantic at heart yet sceptical about romance? Hey, maybe I'm just waiting for someone to whisk me off me feet! Who knows lol Cynical Romantic. I'm the same way. I love romance, and the nice things about it. Yet I am in no way outwardly romantic, as many can tell. In fact one may think that I'm a cold hearted depressing bastard who masks his hatred for humanity with a thick veneer of sarcasm and sly insults. Well, I'm not *masking* it. But I do know how to be unbearably sweet, and what it is that made her love me. A lot of those who've tried to get me would tell you that I'm not very easy, and I'm an annoyingly difficult sod to deal with. Once you get past that, it's different. But it's a case of getting past that. Is it like that with you, Nixie? __________________ http://starchildcoffee.blogspot.com |
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| 20 Oct 2011 - 18:12 | 72734 |
| NixieThePixie Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 2001 | Quote JaeXD:
Quote NixieThePixie:
I don't really know what I am - I've never had a physically attraction to anyone so big fat grey area. Even though I'm a romantic at heart... Can you be a romantic at heart yet sceptical about romance? Hey, maybe I'm just waiting for someone to whisk me off me feet! Who knows lol Cynical Romantic. I'm the same way. I love romance, and the nice things about it. Yet I am in no way outwardly romantic, as many can tell. In fact one may think that I'm a cold hearted depressing bastard who masks his hatred for humanity with a thick veneer of sarcasm and sly insults. Well, I'm not *masking* it. But I do know how to be unbearably sweet, and what it is that made her love me. A lot of those who've tried to get me would tell you that I'm not very easy, and I'm an annoyingly difficult sod to deal with. Once you get past that, it's different. But it's a case of getting past that. Is it like that with you, Nixie? Kinda but not at the same time. I have trust issues. With humanity on the whole. And then coupled that with the fact I'm really self conscious and painfully shy (in person) I just don't think anyone would want to waste there time. And even if they did I wouldn't be able to shake of a feeling that they've got an ulterior motive. I love the fairy tale stories of romance and such, the flowers, chocolates... Valentines day even though I know it's one of the biggest marketing ploy ever now. But if you chat to me (except online where I become a much more open person about my issues - seriously, saw a counsellor and didn't tell her a thing about any issues I had) I come across as the type who views romance is dead. I think it's presumed cause I'm such a critical/analytical person when it comes to people and things. That, and I've openly stated that I find open displays of affection embarrassing. I don't know. Anyway, I come across as difficult. I am difficult. I don't understand myself so everyone else is screwed lol. And I know you're not a "annoyingly difficult sod". You're a very nice person who does a good job of hiding it lol. Re-reading this, I must seem like a paranoid, confusing oddity. But I didn't exactly have a happy time in school and some unintentional stuff from my dad nor any real support or reassurance from my mum. Hence, insecure. The only reason I'm not a total recluse is that I have siblings. Last edited by NixieThePixie (20 Oct 2011 - 18:22) |
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| Leolarua Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 70 | Quote NixieThePixie:
Kinda but not at the same time. I have trust issues. With humanity on the whole. And then coupled that with the fact I'm really self conscious and painfully shy (in person) I just don't think anyone would want to waste there time. And even if they did I wouldn't be able to shake of a feeling that they've got an ulterior motive. I love the fairy tale stories of romance and such, the flowers, chocolates... Valentines day even though I know it's one of the biggest marketing ploy ever now. But if you chat to me (except online where I become a much more open person about my issues - seriously, saw a counsellor and didn't tell her a thing about any issues I had) I come across as the type who views romance is dead. I think it's presumed cause I'm such a critical/analytical person when it comes to people and things. That, and I've openly stated that I find open displays of affection embarrassing. I don't know. Anyway, I come across as difficult. I am difficult. I don't understand myself so everyone else is screwed lol. And I know you're not a "annoyingly difficult sod". You're a very nice person who does a good job of hiding it lol. Re-reading this, I must seem like a paranoid, confusing oddity. But I didn't exactly have a happy time in school and some unintentional stuff from my dad nor any real support or reassurance from my mum. Hence, insecure. The only reason I'm not a total recluse is that I have siblings. are you me? haha. but seriously. you pretty much described what im like as well. |
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| 21 Oct 2011 - 11:55 | 72815 |
| JaeXD Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 1019 | Quote NixieThePixie:
And I know you're not a "annoyingly difficult sod". You're a very nice person who does a good job of hiding it lol. It is both heartwarming and annoying when people realise that .. ahahaha.. Bloody hell. __________________ http://starchildcoffee.blogspot.com |
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| 23 Oct 2011 - 23:54 | 72968 |
| Manticore Joined: 25 Nov 2010 Posts: 443 | Cynical Romantics.. Tough Crowd..
Can't be hopeless in a homo world. It gets you killed or just as bad >.< |
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| 24 Oct 2011 - 02:23 | 72977 |
| Han Hyuga Joined: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 819 | Quote dahlia: What the- I knew I shouldn't have given that dodgy scientist my eyelash.
are you me? haha. but seriously. you pretty much described what im like as well. Actually, I think it's a little comforting to know there actually are other people in a similar boat. I'm not confused about my orientation (As I think I said earlier maybe?) but yeah other than that I can pretty much copy and paste your issues if you get me. I'm just glad my one close friend I have in real life thinks the world of me. It gives me hope. I errr... Hope all you guys find someone special to you, god knows I'm still looking. |
| 26 Oct 2011 - 19:00 | 73196 |
| Anonymous Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 0 | Seeing as OP wants to meet people does anyone in this thread wanna meet up at MCM on saturday? ^^ I'm not really LGBT or anything but I don't discriminate (I'm from BRIGHTON xD) and would like to hang with some cool people! I'm not cosplaying this time because I'm off to canada next week and I think my friend who was gonna go with me on saturday is gonna drop out =< Normally I just find cool people in the queue and hang with them but it'd be nice to have a meetup for the awesome people on this site ^__^
Also I haven't seen any expo picnic or anything this year either >__< if anyone knows of any non-cosplay meets or fun stuff going on for everybody lemme know ^^ Aaaaand yeah like others have said there are loaads of LGBT cosplayers and such, cosplaying is probably one of the best ways to meet them I guess seeing as everyone is really nice and easy to talk to just gotta know the right people I guess ^^ |
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| 26 Oct 2011 - 20:11 | 73198 |
| Manticore Joined: 25 Nov 2010 Posts: 443 | Quote NekoShuffle:
Seeing as OP wants to meet people does anyone in this thread wanna meet up at MCM on saturday? ^^ I'm not really LGBT or anything but I don't discriminate (I'm from BRIGHTON xD) and would like to hang with some cool people! I'm not cosplaying this time because I'm off to canada next week and I think my friend who was gonna go with me on saturday is gonna drop out =< Normally I just find cool people in the queue and hang with them but it'd be nice to have a meetup for the awesome people on this site ^__^ Also I haven't seen any expo picnic or anything this year either >__< if anyone knows of any non-cosplay meets or fun stuff going on for everybody lemme know ^^ Aaaaand yeah like others have said there are loaads of LGBT cosplayers and such, cosplaying is probably one of the best ways to meet them I guess seeing as everyone is really nice and easy to talk to just gotta know the right people I guess ^^ GAY PEOPLE MEET AT 3PM!!! Front entrance! Big Cosplay Hug!! |
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| 26 Oct 2011 - 20:15 | 73199 |
| ZeroSilence Joined: 27 Mar 2009 Posts: 179 | I know of various cosplayers who are part of LGBT, myself being one of them (but still in the closest to family and distant friends).
Personally I've always felt there's a very good and accepting attitude to LGBT within the cosplay/anime community because of things such as Yaoi and Yuri. I'd definitely like to meet up, I'm all for making new friends. n_nb __________________ Lisa Bee Photography - Amateur cosplay and media convention photographer. |
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| 26 Oct 2011 - 23:12 | 73207 |
| Anonymous Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 0 | Woohoo ^_^ then we're all set, 3pm then? or does anyone else have any clashes with other meets? ^^ |
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| 26 Oct 2011 - 23:35 | 73210 |
| Manticore Joined: 25 Nov 2010 Posts: 443 | Quote NekoShuffle:
Woohoo ^_^ then we're all set, 3pm then? or does anyone else have any clashes with other meets? ^^ undoubtedly it will but I'd shove aside anyone just for the meet |
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| 27 Oct 2011 - 08:13 | 73227 |
| JaeXD Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 1019 | Is this registered with the Fringe?
Have you all got wristbands? Have you got a fringe pass? Have you given your personal details to a nameless company? Also, you do all know this is totally homophobic and pointless, according to this thread http://www.mcmexpogroup.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=385&t=17159 Srsly u gaiz, if you don't adhere to the expo rules, you'll all blow up. (You probably won't blow up) __________________ http://starchildcoffee.blogspot.com Last edited by JaeXD (27 Oct 2011 - 08:15) |
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| 27 Oct 2011 - 13:29 | 73241 |
| Anonymous Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 0 | ^ xD
weeeellllll considering the MCM forums censor the word "gay" I'm not sure they'd even want an LGBT meetup on their fringe thingy so as long as we all have wristbands we should be all cool and fall into the "impromptu gathering" category ^^ |
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