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06 Sep 2011 - 12:1468792
New guy, needs help
So first off let me introduce myself ,my name is mike and ive been wanting to cosplay for awhile now. Ive decided after much thought on what i want to cosplay as and my decision was a character from the game league of legends which is an online free to play game. His name is mordekaiser..., and ive been looking on various ways to make foam armor and cosplay gear and decided to make an account and hear from a community that enjoys making such items. Now, from waht ive read expanding foam and these foam sheets are the best route to go... that or paper mache. Not sure which is the best road but i would like some advice as to what materials and what not so i can get this project underway.

- many thanks, mike



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06 Sep 2011 - 13:0068801
It depends what experience you have with foam tbh, armour and weapons aren't probably a good idea if youre new to it. You dont wanna waste it >_<


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06 Sep 2011 - 13:1768803
There are many foam armour tutorials online - they will probably give you more information then anyone can give in a forum!

In the end, everyone has to experiment and waste money *stares at current armour work in progress... sighs*

Pick a technique and make a tester piece of armour, if it doesn't work for you, try another technique =)

I will say that it's hard but not impossible to make decent paper mache armour, however it's less effort by all accounts to use foam!

You could also try wonderflex... but...

Anyway - here's a couple of good sites / tutorials =)

http://www.entropyhouse.com/penwiper/costumes/helmsdeep.html
http://amethyst-angel.com/armormaking_materials.html


06 Sep 2011 - 16:5868813
Quote Crap Rocket Red:
It depends what experience you have with foam tbh, armour and weapons aren't probably a good idea if youre new to it. You dont wanna waste it >_<



I'd listen to this advice if I were you.

It's crazy to jump into any hobby straight at the top, cosplay isn't an exception. It takes all the skills of a making clothes and more. Armour is what I generally consider as in the top tier of difficulty of making.

If you really want to do the cosplay that bad, I would look into commisioning it or buying.


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06 Sep 2011 - 17:0768814
Quote Rawrr:
Quote Crap Rocket Red:
It depends what experience you have with foam tbh, armour and weapons aren't probably a good idea if youre new to it. You dont wanna waste it >_<



I'd listen to this advice if I were you.

It's crazy to jump into any hobby straight at the top, cosplay isn't an exception. It takes all the skills of a making clothes and more. Armour is what I generally consider as in the top tier of difficulty of making.

If you really want to do the cosplay that bad, I would look into commisioning it or buying.


I completely disagree with you.
And this is my reason why:
http://cosplayisland.co.uk/costume/view/45463

You don't know what skills you have until you start. And you can't learn new skills unless you challenge yourself.

Look in the articles section for some tutorials. Look at similar costumes people have done and ask them for advice.

There's also a list of tutorials here
http://cosplaytutorial.com/list.php

Cosplay IS expensive and you do need to practice using things. Starting small and working up is a good idea, and was how I started. But don't let that hold you back at all.


08 Sep 2011 - 23:2869078
I agree. Some people don't make clothes, only armor because that's what they're good at or that's where they started. However, they also practice at it and work at it. You will have to play around first, see what works and see how the material you pick handles


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09 Sep 2011 - 00:0769081
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Armour is what I generally consider as in the top tier of difficulty of making.


Not necessarily. Armour making is considerably different to clothes making. Some people are bloody amazing at making at making realistic armour however they say they're not as confident with handling fabric. Likewise some people have made the most intricate cosplays out of cloth however are not as confident with using foam or other materials for armour.

There are different areas of expertise in cosplay which different people work on. It's like in music, if you pick up a stringed instrument then you can easily play other stringed instruments easily by using old techniques. Whereas if they wanted to pick up something from another area like woodwind, they have to start from scratch.
That's kinda how I think of cosplay, you work with cloth, you can work with all sorts of things related, but you have to start at the beginning if you want to tackle foam or something.

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It depends what experience you have with foam tbh, armour and weapons aren't probably a good idea if youre new to it. You dont wanna waste it >_<


Here's an example, you could say the same about fabric. For example expensive dupion silk which is around £10+ a metre (Hey I find that sort of fabric expensive alright? : P). Always make a mock up if you're not too comfortable with using expensive materials straight off the bat. For example if you were handling fabric, you'd probably use muslim or polycotton to make a pattern (or you'd buy a pattern). If you were handling foam, you'd probably use something cheap to make a mock up and practising techniques because buying whatever it is you need.

For armour making, I suppose you could always use card to try and get the shapes right before buying the sheets of craft foam or whatever you wish to use.

Best of luck Mike with your project, almost nice to see some good armoured cosplays as they're not as common. Welcome to CosplayIsland as well!

(And I've created a wall of text again, sorry everyone )


09 Sep 2011 - 00:4469083
oooh morde is definatly ambitious. ive done a few armourd cosplays and working on one atm. i do agree in some respects that armour is tricky to jump into but you just gotta dive in. one big problem i think youll find with morde is that youll have some difficulty with matching his body to yours, usually,when it comes to armour i do alot, ALOT of research and thinking before i start, and i usually start with a wire frame cause you can make adjustments and kinda try it out. GL to you, and hit me up if you want some advice if i can help.


09 Sep 2011 - 00:5969084
Firstly, welcome to the forums. I hope you enjoy your time here



I would also recommend these tutorials. They're really good. You mentioned expanding foam and this website is really good for that :

http://www.kamuicosplay.com/

I would say if you want to do armour as your first cosplay go for it. Just note that full armour will be trickier as you'll have to figure out how it all fits together etc but if it's something you are going to enjoy making then go for it. Some people will never ever sew a thing and do all armour.

A bit of advice for this forum though is to try stuff out and ask specific questions, this will get you more answers. E.g. "I don't know how to make the pauldrons, I thought about using expanding foam but what can you recommend?" Links to reference pictures are also a must, if you don't provide reference pictures the answers you'll get will be vague, if any at all. As you can't expect people to go hunting for reference pictures for you.

The material people decide to use is generally dependant upon budget. If you've not got a lot of money cardboard boxes are your best friend. It's not as bendable or shapable as different types of foams but it's cheap, maybe even free if you get it from supermarkets that just throw them away.

People swear by camping mats and yoga mats, as these are usually a foam called EVA, which is the same as craft foam which is a thin sheet of foam (2mm) that you usually get in paper sizes in craft shops, and is usually available in camping shops and supermarkets etc. These can be heated with a heat gun and formed to create curves or put over an edge to create sharper edges in the foam.

You'll want to get yourself a glue gun as whatever you choose to use to make the armour a glue gun will be invaluable.

Paper is also your friend, I use printer paper and plan out bits of armour, like Mordekaiser has those big boxy bracers on his arm. I would make them with paper and masking (decorators) or sticky tape to plan out how big i want it before remaking it using foam or whatever material you want. As paper is much cheaper than the other materials so if you mess it up you can cut it up and add bits etc. It doesn't need to look pretty just give you an idea of scale etc.

this tutorial is awesome for a base of any full helmet. There's a few spelling mistakes and it's hard to follow due to these in some areas but the pictures really help.

Personally, I'd probably use a combination of foams. You could papier mache bits like the chest muscle bits and cover it in foam to smooth it off. The stomach ridges you would either need either ridged foam or even cardboard

Hope that essay helps in some way.



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