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05 Sep 2011 - 21:4768744
To Reply Or Ignore?
Hi All
Been on CI for just over a month,and for the most part have had a very positive response,from some lovely people!
You know who you are,so thanks for replying.
My GRIPE is this,I've sent afew personal messages to people regards their fantastic costumes,and how they created them,where did they get materials from,etc!
And haven't had a reply,I would prefer someone to BLOCK me rather than ignore me,least I'd know where I stand!
Come on,if someone sends a message,have the decency to reply!Thank You,GRIPE OVER!
Regards to all nafnamtab


05 Sep 2011 - 21:5068745
Some people don't log in very often - not even once a month - so that might account for some of the non-replies.


05 Sep 2011 - 21:5568746
But also consider the fact that not everyone would like to share their secrets. Although they should still reply with a "sorry, but I don't give out detailed information regarding the creation of my cosplay".

I get messages like that from time to time, and when I do tell people about how I created parts or what fabric I used, I don't get a "thanks" and they bugger off with the info. So I don't bother giving tips to these people who message me anymore. So these other cosplayers may feel the same way.


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05 Sep 2011 - 21:5568747
Storme is right, people can be pressed for time, and may not be on the site often.

There's also the point that it's just in some people's nature to not reply, especially if they already get lots of messages.

While it's nice to reply to messages, it can get tedious to reply with the same thing to lots of people and sometimes, you're just not in the mood to reply.


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Last edited by LinkyLex (05 Sep 2011 - 21:58)
06 Sep 2011 - 08:5568787
I think the majority of people on here are very friendly and helpful so i doubt they are ignoring you out of spite, I'm sure they are just busy or don't come on here very often ^_^


06 Sep 2011 - 10:0268789
Regarding where people get their materials, you don't really need to ask that unless it's gold!
There's plenty of fabric sellers on eBay, Amazon, etc.

Also, I don't really reply to every message either, I just can't be bothered as I get so many.


06 Sep 2011 - 12:2268793
You can see the last time someone logged in on their overview page, but even then they might have popped on to check something quickly and not had time to answer PMs.

Don't dwell on it if people don't reply. It's annoying, but you never know what's going on in that person's life. There are so many helpful people who will give questions a go, so try someone else and remember who gets back to you


06 Sep 2011 - 12:4268796
Don't let it put you off asking, soon you'll know who to ask for certain things and if they can't help they'll point you in the right direction.

There's also the fact that you won't be asking loads of questions forever, once you've gained a store of knowledge, your questions will be few and far between.

Those who are asked for information, should remember this.

If I had to request that we all take on a good practise, I'd say ;
Pass on your knowledge and ask who you pass onto to build upon this knowledge. Then when you are asked by someone else you can refer them to the person you informed in the first instance.

It's quite flattering for me when I'm referred to as a source of information, and I don't mind at all responding to heaps of questions.


06 Sep 2011 - 23:0968841
If you're really stuck for help, do use the "General Costume Help and Critique" forum and put up a thread there. I find it very helpful.

Sometimes, even through just searching I've found many an answer to a question. The people who search that thread are genuinely either there to help or need help themselves so theres bound to be someone with the right knowledge floating around who can help you



Last edited by picklesofdoom (06 Sep 2011 - 23:09)
07 Sep 2011 - 01:1568850
I agree that the forums are a very handy way for cosplay tips. Not only that is is open for anyone to see and give you help, but it would also usually give you quick replies. Helped me out alot when I use them! Also, it allows for several ideas to pop up so I can decide what might work best.

As everyone said, some just spend less time on CI than others. I'd be happy to reply if I get asked for help but usually I write alot in the descriptions so there is little need.

Depends how often you log in and how happy you are to give away tips ^^


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07 Sep 2011 - 01:4768851
First off, just because you sent a personal message does not give you an automatic right to expect a response. Ultimately, you are requesting information or help from another person who may have spend a considerable amount of time and money researching or making stuff. Some people may not be willing to give this information freely, others may do, its dependant on the person. Most people on here are friendly and helpful.

Also, as others have mentioned, people may be busy. Try not taking a lack of response personally, there may be a legitimate reason for why they have not replied.

I'm not for one instant suggesting this is what you have done, but how you ask can be a factor. Personal messages demanding to know how I've made stuff tend not to elicit a response from me. Why should I give away my secrets of how I made my costumes if you can't even be courteous enough to ask me nicely?

But, there are plenty of excellent cosplayers on here, and there is the costume help and critique section were people will no doubt help you. Don't take a lack of response personally, it is supposed to be fun after all.


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07 Sep 2011 - 10:0768854
A lot of the time I never even notice PM's until it's too late. If you are asking someone specificly, it sometimes helps to leave a comment on the costume instead. If it's a simple enough question most people are willing enough to help out so long as they still remember.

But genrally if it is something that they have done which is quite difficult and needs a bit of explanation on how it was done, it will be wrote in the description or journals on the costume. I've maneged to find a lot of answers to my questions through journal entries or even just looking and in progress pictures and being able to see something being constructed.

but sometimes it just more fun to try yourself first. Finding your own way to deal with the problems with construction is always fun, even if you find out later there was a much simiplar way to do it.


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07 Sep 2011 - 11:0068856
Really?


Sorry but this isn't really one of those things you should be griping about Sir. It's understable that you and any other human being does not wish to be ignored but with Forums and in general Cosplaying Society- most people don't have enough time to be spending on socialising whilst costumes and life occur.


On top of that- it's not their obligation to reply to fans on demand. Perhaps a patience and prudence should be in order.
So whilst majority of the time the community is friendly- you will encounter these things a lot.

Besides I'm sure not everyone wants to tell the world how to replicate their outfits.

This is practically pointless to be griping about something that is beyond some people's control. And not to be rude- but Frank: this is kind of childish.



Last edited by Manticore (07 Sep 2011 - 11:01)
07 Sep 2011 - 18:1468883
Thank YOU All For Your Response!
Wow,that was good and bad,but thanks to all of you for replying!
This was actually psychological ploy and a great way to get a response!
As you all took the time to add a comment!
I guess,for me its an age factor thing,if someone takes the time to write to me,I reply!
Plus I don't keep secrets,if I can help someone with something I will,I thought the ethos here was to be as friendly and helpful to each other as possible!
So with that in mind,remember the old saying Lifes Too Short for Disappointments


07 Sep 2011 - 18:3668884
Quote nafnamtab:

I guess,for me its an age factor thing,if someone takes the time to write to me,I reply!

Yeah, but if it is an exceptional costume as you say then think about how many others may also be asking questions about it. And as everyone has said, not everyone logs in every week and when they do log in if they get bombarded with PM's from people they don't know, they may not want to answer them straight away. most people on here have busy lives and although it sound tight, it may seem to trivial to them to reply immediatly.

Quote nafnamtab:

Plus I don't keep secrets,if I can help someone with something I will,I thought the ethos here was to be as friendly and helpful to each other as possible!


as the killing doll said. if they have spent all that time and effort doing all the research and leg work, it's only natural that they might want to hold a few things back.

There is also the fact that people might not want to bother giving out info unless they are sure there is a point. Meaning if you don't actualy show any true intrest in making that costume, why should they waste their time telling you all the extra details.

If it is the fact that you are in the prosess of making the costume and have hit a wall, then I think you are more likely to get a better response then just randomly asking about details.

There are a quite a few spammers on this site form time to time. So it's easy to mistake a genuine intrest from someone just being annoying.

Even though people are friendly and want to help, they still have their pride of making the costume themselves and figuring out the tricky bits, so I can completly understand if they are reluctant to share some things.


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08 Sep 2011 - 01:5368942
As I told you in a personal message dude, chill the f*ck out! USE GOOGLE!


08 Sep 2011 - 02:5268943
Quote nafnamtab:
Wow,that was good and bad,but thanks to all of you for replying!
This was actually psychological ploy and a great way to get a response!
As you all took the time to add a comment!
I guess,for me its an age factor thing,if someone takes the time to write to me,I reply!
Plus I don't keep secrets,if I can help someone with something I will,I thought the ethos here was to be as friendly and helpful to each other as possible!
So with that in mind,remember the old saying Lifes Too Short for Disappointments


This just sounds like you're buzzing the hornets nest.. Leave it be lest you become a Cosplay Pariah to the rest of this community. It's bad enough that you're demanding communique left right and center without earning the right or the renown for it, but to be saying it's an ethos when clearly this community doesn't run with each other, they run as individuals for a cause...

This isn't professional work buddy, some people do this for a hobby. Don't treat it like it's a Job


08 Sep 2011 - 04:1468944
Quote Cpt.Wakka:
This just sounds like you're buzzing the hornets nest.. Leave it be lest you become a Cosplay Pariah to the rest of this community. It's bad enough that you're demanding communique left right and center without earning the right or the renown for it, but to be saying it's an ethos when clearly this community doesn't run with each other, they run as individuals for a cause...

This isn't professional work buddy, some people do this for a hobby. Don't treat it like it's a Job


Took the words right out my mouth. He's been here a month, or he claims to be, and I've never seen him around once before he made this thread.
Now, you cant just demand what you want and throw your dolly out your pram when nothing goes your way.
GROW UP!


08 Sep 2011 - 04:2968946
Ryaoki messaged me a year ago about how to do something costume related.

Still havent told him.

Thats how good I am at replying to costume related questions.


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08 Sep 2011 - 09:4168955
If you want to see a thread that got a lot of responses for something so small, go look up my Tea/Coffee thread.

And that's what I think we all need right now, a cuppa.







Apart from those who don't do hot drinks.

Seriously if anyone can deliver me a filter coffee in the next hour I will give all my money to.



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08 Sep 2011 - 10:3068958
Honestly? All this thread has achieved is the people who've read it out of curiosity are now more likely to ignore you - congratulations.

People respond better to those who've also made things themselves, make the effort to ask for advice via the forums and are generally polite in the way they do so.

And as has already been said - hobby for most of us. The majority of us probably don't check all the time, especially those with the more impressive projects, because of real life/jobs and spending time making things.

And those that do cosplay related things as a way of making money, I do not blame for keeping their secrets to themselves given its how they afford to live.


08 Sep 2011 - 12:4568963
Quote JaeXD:
And that's what I think we all need right now, a cuppa.


I'm with JaeXD on this one...


08 Sep 2011 - 12:5768964
Quote Junta:
Honestly? All this thread has achieved is the people who've read it out of curiosity are now more likely to ignore you - congratulations.

People respond better to those who've also made things themselves, make the effort to ask for advice via the forums and are generally polite in the way they do so.

And as has already been said - hobby for most of us. The majority of us probably don't check all the time, especially those with the more impressive projects, because of real life/jobs and spending time making things.

And those that do cosplay related things as a way of making money, I do not blame for keeping their secrets to themselves given its how they afford to live.


you know what? I absolutely agree with you!


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08 Sep 2011 - 13:0668965
Maybe whacking one out with a cuppa is the solution...


08 Sep 2011 - 13:2168966
As someone who has a very large interest in psychology I can't really agree with your comment of "psychological ploy".

All you have done is drawn attention to yourself, a mixture of good and bad attention. With the scales now tipping largely towards bad as the leading competitor here. The only thing anyone is going to gather from this APPARENTLY being a psychological ploy is that you are......attention seeking. Which suggests that you don't get much attention.

If that's wrong then sorry but that's what most of this will lead people to believe. ESPECIALLY now that you have said it was a psychological ploy. Or of course, you have seen that people are just telling you to grow up and it's just life, so you are making something up to cover the fact that you made an attention seeking post. In essence:
excusing yourself when it doesn't go the way you wanted it to.

That's all I'm getting from this anyway. Now that's out of the way, onto the REAL reason I posted:

Mycroftwave deserves a medal and to repeat the phrase:

"GOOGLE that b**ch"


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