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14 Jun 2011 - 12:2059816
People who disregard others feelings and/or costumes when it comes to this are out of order. I've only asked two people in delicate costumes for a hug; one was Sasori with full knife wings things, and the other was a Storm Trooper. And I hugged very gingerly, and made sure to avoid all the bits that could be damaged. Although I typically squee from afar. If they had said no however, then I would backed away. Hey, I'm 19, I know what no means.

I'm a pretty shy person, believe it or not, and I'm a lot more comfortable hugging someone than talking to them. So in short, I'm odd.

But being picked up and hugged is a big no-no for me. I freak out if a friend does that, so a relatively complete stranger is a big fat no.

As to the comment of "They wouldn't run up and tackle hug people outside Expo"

Well... I wouldn't do it to strangers... But I do greet a lot of my friends that way... We sorta run into each other...

As I said, I'm odd.



But I can see why people don't like free huggers.


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14 Jun 2011 - 12:3659818
Quote rosieroo:
whatt !!! ... iv never had a problem with free hugs - i always thought it was cute.

yes i agree that demand hugs are kinda not right and harsh glomping isnt right but for me just wearing a free hug sign is ok - there shouldent b so many rants -and yes same situation as crap rocket red most of my friend wear them - whats all the fuss about - there just being friendly - soz RANT ABOUT THIS OVER - hugs x


Read the thread, THEN realise what all the fuss is about.

Seriously, posting something like this honestly makes people think you havn't bothered to read the thread or you've just decided that everyone who's had negative experiences with them just don't exsist or made it up.

If you did read the thread then.......... I can;t even figure out where to begin.

If you diddn't then, learn to read topical discussion threads BEFORE posting stuff like that. It's annoying, offensive to the people who have taken the time to post their experiences and just makes you seem down right rude.

If you have a problem with my pointing this out then that's your problem. Not appologising for beeing miffed at you for either not reading the thread or ignoring the relative info.


14 Jun 2011 - 12:4659822
Quote Lulu Rose:
If you have a problem with my pointing this out then that's your problem. Not appologising for beeing miffed at you for either not reading the thread or ignoring the relative info.


Well, at least one staff member will agree with you on that one as I posted something similar to this.

Though I have just realised that Rosieroo is 14.


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14 Jun 2011 - 12:5059824
To Be honest SJ send them off to a japanese convention and try to free hug someone there ^^ then they'll see why not to do it


14 Jun 2011 - 13:0059825
I kind of want to wear a t-shirt or hold a sign that says DEATH TO FREE HUGGERS but that might be a bit extreme and inciting hatred. XD

Seriously though, it depends. Usually I'd rather not because I'm in costume, the hugger might be a perv or a pickpocket and I really don't want to try to chase anyone down the length of ExCel while in costume because they took my wallet.

If the hugger starts to whine and say I'm a spoilsport and such, it takes a lot for me to stop myself from punching them. This does mean that unfortunately I spend most of the time at Expo stopping myself from hurting people. I'm usually a friendly person but I do have a terrible temper when it comes to these things.

Also, I've decided that if anyone force-hug me I'll scream, slap them and say they've assaulted me whether they've done it or not. Might not be fair, but they started it first.

...I should probably ban myself from Expo, seriously.


14 Jun 2011 - 13:1259827
Quote Pez:


Also, I've decided that if anyone force-hug me I'll scream, slap them and say they've assaulted me whether they've done it or not. Might not be fair, but they started it first.

...I should probably ban myself from Expo, seriously.


Pretty much my rules on it, if you know me, hug away, I trust you enough that you'll do it delicatly if I'm wearing something fragile.

If I'm just in some normal clothes though I don't mind a big old hug so long as you dont crush my ribs!

But yeah, the whole free hugs thing and the way the MAJORITY (see Majority means MOST but not ALL) of the expo attendees these days behave, my experiences and my friends experiences have meant that I just don't attend Expos, ever.

The only way anyone can get me to attend an expo is if I am helping run something and I don't have to pay stupid amounts of money for the privilage of sleep.

Also Pez you gain +infinity respect for what you have said. I suspect there is a niche in the market for such tshirts.....TAB, care to fill it?


14 Jun 2011 - 15:4559852
I really never understood the Free Hugs signs.. Uh do they want a hug off me for free, or do they want to give me a hug for free? Confusing.

Reading through these experiences though, the Free Hugs sign seems to be being used as license to steal a hug off you weather you want to or not. I dont like that idea. Im usually wary and keep my distance whenever I see those signs, now I know why.

Having said that I have given hugs to people without signs. Its always nice when your cosplay is recognised, even nicer when you meet someone who is really made happy by your cosplay and wants to show it through a hug.
Also of course I have given loads of hugs (and Hollywood kisses) when I meet other cosplayers and friends from CI at a show. Thats cuz it is just so nice to meet other cosplayers irl.

Conclusion - If I didnt think a hug was genuine I wouldnt want to be part of it. I think a hug should be mutual, otherwise theres no point to it. And a sign board is not a good enough reason for me to hug a complete stranger.

So Free Hugs, Will do 'whatever' for 'whatever', etc make me feel uneasy. The only boards I like are the proper cosplay related ones, eg One girl carried a board which read 'Please Do not feed the Bowser', with her bf cosplaying as Bowser. That made me laugh and it looked great in photos too. The sign didnt work though as at the end of the day they found sweeties inside Bowsers mouth.


14 Jun 2011 - 15:5559853
Ranma 1-2 has pretty much summed what I feel up in a really calm manner, which I seem unable to do because I am a seething ball of rage XD.

I agree though. Hugs from me are kept for people I know. If your nice about it and I say yes, yey, if I say no and you accept that. Thats fantastic. If you scream in my face, I might just do something that YOU would regret.

It's just common sense really, JUST because you are at an event that is for anime, manga, sci fi, comics whatever, doesn't mean you can act like a cock. Do it enough, word gets round, we are a tight community.


14 Jun 2011 - 15:5659854
Quote sjbonnar:
Quote rosieroo:
whatt !!! ... iv never had a problem with free hugs - i always thought it was cute.

yes i agree that demand hugs are kinda not right and harsh glomping isnt right but for me just wearing a free hug sign is ok - there shouldent b so many rants -and yes same situation as crap rocket red most of my friend wear them - whats all the fuss about - there just being friendly - soz RANT ABOUT THIS OVER - hugs x


I laughed LOL

Can I just say, have you actually read the experiences people are mentioning?

Also, what is the point of your free hugs signs? What is the reason for carrying them?




yep iv now read all of the experiences - very extreame but i think that just a friendly hug with people from the same anime , manga whatever is ok especially if you ask ... also i think people who hold signs in most cases are actually quite shy or just wanna meet new people - no biggie really - simples


14 Jun 2011 - 16:0359858
Quote rosieroo:
also i think people who hold signs in most cases are actually quite shy or just wanna meet new people - no biggie really - simples


Lemme re-edit this,

"people who hold signs in most cases are loners who seek the touch of another human being"

Lil creepy really.

Also very quickly, i have also seen people with "Free rape" signs...................How on earth can it be rape if you agree to it with someone first......it would just be smex. Please someone explain


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14 Jun 2011 - 16:0659862
Quote rosieroo:



yep iv now read all of the experiences - very extreame but i think that just a friendly hug with people from the same anime , manga whatever is ok especially if you ask ... also i think people who hold signs in most cases are actually quite shy or just wanna meet new people - no biggie really - simples


The problem is the people who swear at you and give you a stream of profanity because you just said "no" or "not right now sorry"

THOSE are the people we are on about, and when people get a bit violent, like tugging on your costume or wig because you said no.

Look, I get that it hasn't happened to you so you don't really understand just how upseting and frightening it can be so thats why you are saying what you are saying but sometimes it really isn't THAT simple.

Not every person with those signs are the way you say they are. I know that some are, but not all. You NEED to understand that to understand where we are coming from with this argument.

I'm certain that yourself and Red Rocket are lovley people, whom if I said no to, would just accept it and leave it be. Or who I'd say yes to because you asked nicley but it's just that for ever 3 who are nice, you get at least 1 whos an utter arse.

We aren't saying you guys are horrible because youv'e done the free hugging thing, I'm sure your lovley and I'd get on with you really well.

It's like.....Imagine chavs, it's like there are certain people who do this free hugging thing because theyv'e seen people who aren't dicks doing it, who then do it JUST so they can upset and annoy people....It's like trolling in person almost.

Kinda like bullies within a group if that makes sense. They are hidden because they are with everyone else, but they then react differently to the "nice" people with abuse and whatnot if you tell them "no"

Some of us must be coming across as horrible people for being so negative about it. I assure you, we really aren't. Pez is lovley, SJ is a sweetie, I know Nixie is cool (admittedly I only briefly spoke to you bringing you guys water in the kitacon masquerade que because it was stupid hot...we had no straws, I WILL FIX IT!) and I'm not as bad as my forum posts make me seem. I'm just very blunt and to the point.


14 Jun 2011 - 16:0859864
yeah i agree free repe is a bit creepy - i had no idea till i read the thread more cafefully - but is a hug really that bad - im confused


14 Jun 2011 - 16:1359865
You aren't understanding. We are not saying hugs are bad.

What we are saying is:

People who FORCE a hug on you when you refuse are bad

People screaming in your ear for hugs are bad

People screaming swearing at you for refusing are bad

People getting violent for you refusing are bad

People jumping on you, glomping, pulling, pushing, being heavy handed with you without permission are bad.

From my perspective, I avoid it because I'm chronicly ill, if you don't know what that means, I'd rather you google it than me explain to the internet what I have to deal with every day.

Sometimes it hurts to hug, I cant take people screaming loudly at me or in my ears because I have tinnitus and very sensetive hearing, IT HURTS and triggers vertigo whoch again, google it if you don't know. It's not fun, it's not nice, and you don't feel like explaining why you said no to someone if they turn around and scream and swear at you for refusing the hug.

You say youv'e read the thread, if you really had and understood, then you wouldn't be confused. We have explained this several times now.


14 Jun 2011 - 16:1859866
im sorry if i have upset anyone - i understand that the extreames of free huggs are not nice - i think we can all say that for definate - anyway aslong as you ask permission and are polite there is no harm at all - sorry again for any mis understanding x


14 Jun 2011 - 16:2659867
All i can say is a pigeon just flew into my window he had the right idea.

/facewindow...

Though to point out one example going back a few years i saw a sign once saying "Free Buttsex"

The scene was some kid cosplayers asking people for free buttsex outside the entrance near the steps to the lower ATM/Toilets.

There was a group of them who asked a stormtrooper from the 501st to pose with them for a 'normal photo'. They held up the sign and a photo was taken. The storm trooper tried to see what was on the sign but didn't manage to till someone told him. All i can say he was not amused.


14 Jun 2011 - 16:2759868
Quote Lulu Rose:
Ranma 1-2 has pretty much summed what I feel up in a really calm manner, which I seem unable to do because I am a seething ball of rage XD.

I agree though. Hugs from me are kept for people I know. If your nice about it and I say yes, yey, if I say no and you accept that. Thats fantastic. If you scream in my face, I might just do something that YOU would regret.

It's just common sense really, JUST because you are at an event that is for anime, manga, sci fi, comics whatever, doesn't mean you can act like a cock. Do it enough, word gets round, we are a tight community.


I think you'd have every right to be a seething ball of rage given your experience with free huggers XD. I have tinnitus too, although admittedly not as bad as some people get it, and I have difficulty hearing things in an environment as loud/hectic as Expo to begin with, without being temporarily deafened by some idiot screaming in my ear ¬¬. So I can sympathise to a degree.

Anyway, I quoted this whole post because it pretty much sums up what I was going to say.

Somehow, social etiquette seems non-existant at Expo. I have anxiety issues and I just generally don't like being touched by strangers. If you're just holding a sign, fair enough, that's fine because I can choose to ignore that (although be aware that people WILL lump you in with the bad eggs). But a lot of people just seem to use free hugs as a means to be a complete dick.

Last Expo a guy tried to hug me when I'd ran outside for some fresh air due to feeling faint. Not good. He seemed drunk too :/.


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14 Jun 2011 - 16:4459872
I don't really mind getting free hugs as long as my cosplay isn't fragile, but I remember getting my face licked by some random person at expo once... *shivers*


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14 Jun 2011 - 16:4659873
Quote Blue_Clover:
I don't really mind getting free hugs as long as my cosplay isn't fragile, but I remember getting my face licked by some random person at expo once... *shivers*


dfjsahfkaslfhkas OH MY GOD WHAT. DX

Quote Quinzel:
Somehow, social etiquette seems non-existant at Expo. I have anxiety issues and I just generally don't like being touched by strangers.


I had to tell someone to back the f off last Expo when he became pestersome after my girlfriend said no to his free hug as well. Some people don't understand that some others don't like being touched.

Expo's just getting out of hand really. At the most recent Expo, on Sunday when everything was starting to wind down, I saw some guy walking around stark naked, holding all his clothes. He was coming out from the area with the trees next to the river. Those weren't exactly dense trees but I had no idea where he came from before that or when he was stripped. Anyway, he only started getting dressed again when he was in the pavement area between the trees and the statue.

And then there was a bunch of young people climbing over the side of the main steps (Custom House DLR end of ExCel) and taking turns to jump from there, over the hedge, onto the grass bank and then roll down the bank. It looked pretty damn dangerous but the staff and security didn't seem to see it when they walked past (though they were ever so on-the-ball with checking wristbands the whole weekend!) It felt like once the Expo was over they didn't care anymore.

Guess I could've told security but they were a massive group and mine was little, didn't seem to be worth the trouble. Besides, if breaking an arm or a rib will make people grow up, that's a pretty small price to pay. Bones grow back fast, pride takes a little longer. Growing up though, seems to takes forever for some.



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14 Jun 2011 - 17:1959876
Quote Pez:


Expo's just getting out of hand really. At the most recent Expo, on Sunday when everything was starting to wind down, I saw some guy walking around stark naked, holding all his clothes. He was coming out from the area with the trees next to the river. Those weren't exactly dense trees but I had no idea where he came from before that or when he was stripped. Anyway, he only started getting dressed again when he was in the pavement area between the trees and the statue.




Oh my god what? WHY WAS HE NAKED?! what did he do? oh god!

Thats creeeeeppppyyyyyy.


14 Jun 2011 - 17:2359877
Quote Lulu Rose:
Quote Pez:


Expo's just getting out of hand really. At the most recent Expo, on Sunday when everything was starting to wind down, I saw some guy walking around stark naked, holding all his clothes. He was coming out from the area with the trees next to the river. Those weren't exactly dense trees but I had no idea where he came from before that or when he was stripped. Anyway, he only started getting dressed again when he was in the pavement area between the trees and the statue.




Oh my god what? WHY WAS HE NAKED?! what did he do? oh god!

Thats creeeeeppppyyyyyy.


ewwwwwwwwwww - nasty - i second this question why was he naked - im pretty sure thats not cosplay lol


14 Jun 2011 - 17:2759879
Quote rosieroo:
Quote Lulu Rose:
Oh my god what? WHY WAS HE NAKED?! what did he do? oh god!

Thats creeeeeppppyyyyyy.


ewwwwwwwwwww - nasty - i second this question why was he naked - im pretty sure thats not cosplay lol


I have no idea! I can only hope that public free buttsex was not involved. He didn't seem to have a sign though. XD;


14 Jun 2011 - 18:0559884
Quote Blue_Clover:
I don't really mind getting free hugs as long as my cosplay isn't fragile, but I remember getting my face licked by some random person at expo once... *shivers*

Seriously? Ugh.


14 Jun 2011 - 18:2059886
Whilst wearing my Big Sister suit, I nearly impaled a free-hugger...

Totally by accident...

They were running at me, and there was a pointy stick on my arm...

eh hem

THE SAME DAY, a really horribly sweaty fat guy comes running at me, yelling 'BIG SISTARRR FREEEEE HUUUUGGGZZZ' Im wearing a costume with all the weight on at the back, the only thing that stopped me from going down was the few friends I had behind me at the time actually catching me!!


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14 Jun 2011 - 18:3359888
Quote Chikinpoo:
Whilst wearing my Big Sister suit, I nearly impaled a free-hugger...

Totally by accident...

They were running at me, and there was a pointy stick on my arm...

eh hem

THE SAME DAY, a really horribly sweaty fat guy comes running at me, yelling 'BIG SISTARRR FREEEEE HUUUUGGGZZZ' Im wearing a costume with all the weight on at the back, the only thing that stopped me from going down was the few friends I had behind me at the time actually catching me!!


By accident she says



As for mr naked man, i saw him and all i could say is im pretty sure there wasnt a breeze that day


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14 Jun 2011 - 18:3759889
...These experiences are putting me off Expo quite a bit :x


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