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25 Nov 2010 - 22:4245730
Fabric paint issues!
I've been looking at fabric paints for several weeks now (to transfer on to a black zentai suit- the character is anti-spiral Nia from Gurren Lagann). Unfortunately, my luck is non-existent at the moment and I tested out some Dylon fabric paint which has always worked in the past but sadly just sinks into the fabric and disappears.

After a couple of more google searches I come across acrylic paint and am wondering if that's the best thing to get. Alternatively, I get some 'dark fabric paint' although that only comes in red and I'm not sure if I can get away with that as the costume is technically pink. I don't want to throw away any more cash as it is so would appreciate any advice from somehow who has worked with paint and dark fabrics before! Thank you!

Last edited by AmethystEyes (25 Nov 2010 - 22:48)
25 Nov 2010 - 22:4845731
Assuming you've tried out several coats of dylon?

Acrylic should be alright, since it's plastic it should be flexible enough, it'll mean you'd have to paint it while wearing the suit though to give it the right stretch to not crack

Good luck with the costume, it's gonna be awesome :3

25 Nov 2010 - 23:0545732
Thanks for the quick reply! I'd definitely not be able to paint the outfit while wearing it as I have a horribly shaky hand and can't really think of any friends nearby who'd be willing to do it, so that probably rules acrylic out. I literally only applied one layer of paint then came back an hour later to find it had all almost completely vanished. I've added another layer and am going to be dabbing at it for the next hour or so to see if it sets better. I'm probably just a little impatient!

26 Nov 2010 - 08:3745740
You could make yourself a gaffa dummy and put the suit on that so you could paint it while it was in shape?

26 Nov 2010 - 10:3545742
Quote ailsa-chan:
You could make yourself a gaffa dummy and put the suit on that so you could paint it while it was in shape?

Thanks! Do you have any walkthroughs on that? I'm having trouble finding any.

26 Nov 2010 - 11:3645747
Having done a bit more reading around, I've read a few people who said they drew the outline with chalk and then added the fabric paint. Does that sound like a good idea? It'd definitely be an easier option!

26 Nov 2010 - 21:0845766
Quote AmethystEyes:
Quote ailsa-chan:
You could make yourself a gaffa dummy and put the suit on that so you could paint it while it was in shape?

Thanks! Do you have any walkthroughs on that? I'm having trouble finding any.

Basically, get a pair of leggings and a long sleeve top, and wear those while a helpful assistant wraps you up in gaffa tape over the clothing. (Not too tight, but so it is form-fitting.) Once you are covered, get them to cut you out carefully, then use gaffa to stick the edges back together. Stuff with newspaper until it is firm and you-shaped.

27 Nov 2010 - 04:2945781
You could also try Stretchi paints maybe? They are created for use with cured latex and as such, are flexible and wont crack when you move as they are designed to take a lot of wear and be bent and squashed when used on cured latex. I imagine the dylon was seeping through because its not thick enough? I've never used dylon to dye clothing, I used a brand my nanna gave me (forgot the name of it D: ), but what I've seen of dylon is that its thin.


( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stretchi-Paints-For-Painting-Latex-Items---White-30ml_W0QQitemZ160456303881QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=174810674062&rvr_id=174810674062&cguid=5a594e5c12c0a0aa17f79257ff42b1b5#ht_500wt_922

Ebay link for cheaper white stretchi paint if you need it :3)
Stretchi paint is good as well because the bottle comes with a thin nozzle which may help you keep it neat.

Also, here is a brilliant tutorial on how to make a duct tape dummy, this is the one I first used to figure out my dummy when making armour. :3


(Watch up to then end of part 2 for how to make the duct tape dummy as the rest is about casting)

Once you've made the dummy, you can put the zentai over it and draw out the design in tailors chalk (or just regular chalk if you don't have tailors chalk available). All I'll say is be careful when painting as if the zentai is quite thin, the paint may end up seeping through and sticking to the dummy. Do a small patch test somewhere on the zentai (like the bottom of the foot maybe?) and see if it sticks to the dummy before you begin your design to check if you're worried.)


http://youtu.be/SYhgRqJeuEo - Convention Etiquette

Last edited by Member-XI (27 Nov 2010 - 04:32)
27 Nov 2010 - 20:5045800
For my Kamina cape(see costumes) I used Raphail fabric paint that came with a nozzle. The Black paint took two coats but the white was adsorb like a sponge and took five. I got the exact shape by drawing out the exact shape on a large piece of paper and creating a stencil out of it. I taped it down with masking tape and use the paint bottles nozzle to put a thin layer of paint around the stencils boarders, which was alot easier and faster than using a brush, if by chance a blot of ink seeped underneath the stencil I just adjusted the line ever so slightly to cover it.

While I did use multiple layers of paint inside the lines, I left the paint along the line with just one layer in case I went over it, but It still came out very well.

Also, make sure you have ENOUGH fabric paint, you don't want to run out and have seek out alternatives last minute like I did.

29 Nov 2010 - 00:3145848
Thanks for all the advice! Unfortunately the stretchi paint doesn't come in pink and I don't want to risk mixing colours as I probably wouldn't be able to paint the suit all in one sitting, which might mean I risk having different shades of pink.
Cohen, do you have a link for those raphail paints? When I google them I keep getting referred to the artist Raphael!

29 Nov 2010 - 01:1945849
I bought the paint from a local craft shop, I did contemplate posting a link to it however the only link I was able to find was the one on the back of the bottle which is in french as its a french brand.(something I overlooked when buying). Ill post the link to their site here, might want to google it and run it though theirs translate thou.

link: www.Raphael.fr

I tired searching for them myself but couldn't find any, sorry I couldn't be any more help.

29 Nov 2010 - 10:4345850
Thanks for that! I wasn't able to purchase any Raphael in the end though as I couldn't find any distributors. I found some nice thick acrylic System 3 paint that matched up perfectly on the colour chart so I'm hoping that will work. This is the third type of paint I'll be testing so I'm hoping it's the one, not least of all for my bank account!

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