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24 Jun 2008 - 12:583940
Chest/Bust Armor
I'm planning on doing the costume below:

http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/costume/view/1681
for May Expo '09. I want to get started early cause I have two weeks off coming up and just... well - I'd like to get it started so I'm not faffing about.

I have ideas on how to do most of it, its just the chest/bust armor that I can foresee causing huge problems.
My intial idea is to use craft foam to build around a bra, paint it gold and maybe papermache on some details (I can't find any close ups of the patterns).

I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not - because I've never made any form of armor before.
So if you have experience or any suggestions I'd be really happy to hear them!

Thankies in advance! :]


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24 Jun 2008 - 14:063941
Quote Silver:
I'm planning on doing the costume below:

http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/costume/view/1681
for May Expo '09. I want to get started early cause I have two weeks off coming up and just... well - I'd like to get it started so I'm not faffing about.

I have ideas on how to do most of it, its just the chest/bust armor that I can foresee causing huge problems.
My intial idea is to use craft foam to build around a bra, paint it gold and maybe papermache on some details (I can't find any close ups of the patterns).

I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not - because I've never made any form of armor before.
So if you have experience or any suggestions I'd be really happy to hear them!

Thankies in advance! :]
you know how when you we little and the teacher made you put papier mache around a balloon to make a bowl? that image just came flooding back. ive never made armour before but i think your idea was a good one. a few layers of fake papier mache (paper strips dunked in pva and water mixture)and layed over a balloon or, like you said, a bra (maybe use cling film so the bra doesn't go stiff!) seems like a good idea. ^^ then use like modeling clay or something for the edges and the details? i like that outfit it's gonna look ace! ^^ you'll probably want something hard incase someone bumps into, the craft foam could get crushes. and you won't get a smooth round look where you'll have to dart and fold the foam around the bra either. ^^

hope that helps a little! ^^


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24 Jun 2008 - 21:573961
Mhmm... I hadn't thought about that, using clingfilm I mean...

I think I'll have a few trial and error attempts y'know, to see how things might work!
But thank you for your input, definately an idea I'll think on! :333


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25 Jun 2008 - 08:273965
Quote Silver:
Mhmm... I hadn't thought about that, using clingfilm I mean...

I think I'll have a few trial and error attempts y'know, to see how things might work!
But thank you for your input, definately an idea I'll think on! :333
^_^b
i like thinking of how to make props and stooff. ^^ good luck!


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25 Jun 2008 - 10:173969
i've used somthing called Friendly Plastic or Polymorph to make my Danger room costume, its fairly easy to use and you can get a really nice finish on it using just a hair dryer,

if you are gonna take a stab at it, i'd suggest getting a cheap asda bra for a couple of quid and molding ontop of it whilst wearing it, and it'll give you your exact shape, then you can add sections and detail to your liking,

its fairley expensive stuff, i paid over £100 for enough to make the whole of my costume but i think you can prob do a bust on a kilo of it that you can get from TEP online,

If you wanna ask me anything about it feel free to pm me about it



25 Jun 2008 - 10:533971
Quote HelloKitty:
i've used somthing called Friendly Plastic or Polymorph to make my Danger room costume, its fairly easy to use and you can get a really nice finish on it using just a hair dryer,

if you are gonna take a stab at it, i'd suggest getting a cheap asda bra for a couple of quid and molding ontop of it whilst wearing it, and it'll give you your exact shape, then you can add sections and detail to your liking,

its fairley expensive stuff, i paid over £100 for enough to make the whole of my costume but i think you can prob do a bust on a kilo of it that you can get from TEP online,

If you wanna ask me anything about it feel free to pm me about it



Lol! I bought a primark bra already to work from.

I think I will PM you, but probably later when I'm not cutting my break fine at work. ^^U


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25 Jun 2008 - 11:093972
Quote Hexi:
You'll probably want something hard incase someone bumps into, the craft foam could get crushes. and you won't get a smooth round look where you'll have to dart and fold the foam around the bra either.


Now, I always get accused of being a funky/craft foam salesman, but I do adore the stuff! So I'll step to it's defense here XD

If you are making curved shapes, you *can* heat and shape funky foam with a heat gun, though it is a little tricky to get right. Alternatively though, you can treat it exactly as you would fabric, and make shapes out of pattern pieces. For where the 'seams' or darts are, rather than folding it, you can either glue the pieces edge to edge (holds surprisingly well with contact adhesive) or if you cover the seams afterwards, you can actually sew funky foam together. Use a large zig-zag stitch, it holds pieces of funky foam side by side really well. (I'm rubbish at getting pictures of any of the things I've made, but you can just see how it looks if you glue pieces edge to edge on my Fujin armour here )

For the raised details, you could make them out of separate bits of funky foam glued on, although it wouldn't give the rounded effect as well as a moulded material.

Also, being slightly flexible might mean that it is more comfortable to wear and will move with you, rather than something solid.

I keep on wanting to try out friendly plastic as HelloKitty suggests, it sounds awesome! You might be able to combine using funky foam for a base of the armour, then use friendly plastic on top?



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25 Jun 2008 - 11:153974
Quote Delusional:
Quote Hexi:
You'll probably want something hard incase someone bumps into, the craft foam could get crushes. and you won't get a smooth round look where you'll have to dart and fold the foam around the bra either.


Now, I always get accused of being a funky/craft foam salesman, but I do adore the stuff! So I'll step to it's defense here XD

If you are making curved shapes, you *can* heat and shape funky foam with a heat gun, though it is a little tricky to get right. Alternatively though, you can treat it exactly as you would fabric, and make shapes out of pattern pieces. For where the 'seams' or darts are, rather than folding it, you can either glue the pieces edge to edge (holds surprisingly well with contact adhesive) or if you cover the seams afterwards, you can actually sew funky foam together. Use a large zig-zag stitch, it holds pieces of funky foam side by side really well. (I'm rubbish at getting pictures of any of the things I've made, but you can just see how it looks if you glue pieces edge to edge on my Fujin armour here )

For the raised details, you could make them out of separate bits of funky foam glued on, although it wouldn't give the rounded effect as well as a moulded material.

Also, being slightly flexible might mean that it is more comfortable to wear and will move with you, rather than something solid.

I keep on wanting to try out friendly plastic as HelloKitty suggests, it sounds awesome! You might be able to combine using funky foam for a base of the armour, then use friendly plastic on top?
ah haha! i thought someone would defend it. XD
fair enough you have a point. >< i do like craft foam but i never thought of using it for big things like that. >w<


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25 Jun 2008 - 12:533980
Well lots of ideas have been thrown out so I have some choice in front of me (and y'know, ten months. )

I just have to find somewhere that STOCKS the stuff now. Methinks this will be a task for ebay.


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25 Jun 2008 - 13:163982
Craft foam is super handy, I made a whole costume out of the stuff!

While a heat gun is best, a hairdryer is also hot enough to shape foam with and contact adhesive to hold edges end to end is easily strong enough (though wipe off any excess glue oozing out the sides, not all paints stick to it).

Also good to know that if you're worried about it getting scratched/dented you can paint it in layers of PVA glue and it'll go pretty dent-proof on the surface

...I'm suprised we don't have a funky foam tutorial on the site. Any takers?


26 Jun 2008 - 13:064023
My mum came up with an interesting idea for this last night and I wanted to run it by peoples to see if they thought it was a good idea.

Chickenwire.

Make a chicken wire frame for the armour, shoped over my own body contours while wearing a t-shirt or something. Line it with some kind of material, felt or cotton (cause the idea of wearing chicken wire against my skin makes me think I'll feel pain I've never felt before) and then papermache over that?

I like this idea... it sounds fairly simple. I just have the issue of getting it on and off...

Which makes me think - how *do* you get this kind of stuff (like full around your body armour) on and off without damaging it?


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26 Jun 2008 - 13:144024
Quote Silver:
My mum came up with an interesting idea for this last night and I wanted to run it by peoples to see if they thought it was a good idea.

Chickenwire.

Make a chicken wire frame for the armour, shoped over my own body contours while wearing a t-shirt or something. Line it with some kind of material, felt or cotton (cause the idea of wearing chicken wire against my skin makes me think I'll feel pain I've never felt before) and then papermache over that?

I like this idea... it sounds fairly simple. I just have the issue of getting it on and off...

Which makes me think - how *do* you get this kind of stuff (like full around your body armour) on and off without damaging it?


I've never been fan of the stuff, but how about ducttape...? you know the grey doom tape! XD

Just wear a VERY old\ugly tshirt, either use the chickenwire, or without, and just go around and around (not TOO tight) with ducttape (haha maybe your mum might like the task) and then CAREFULLY cut yourself out of it, with extra space at the sides and stuff and then just outline what you need for the chest armor...

I don't know... just saying...

People use it to make thier own dressforms, so it SHOULD be tough, but I don't know, and maybe that's where the chicken wire comes in handy?!

Edit: About putting things on, when things are remotely movable (e.g. craftfoam, to an extend, you won't want to bend it TOO far, now would you) you could just use ehem... what are they calles, hooks? on the end (like... a bra?) XD otherwise you might need to make it two pieced, and use snaps or something like that! Hope I make sense, and those are just my two cents! ^_^



Last edited by Lisu-chan (26 Jun 2008 - 13:19)
26 Jun 2008 - 14:454026
I'm using chickenwire for the first time on my current costume. You can get great curved shapes, but be prepared to sacrifice your hands. It's vicious stuff.
Putting fleece/felt on the inside sounds like a great idea.

For all round armour one way is to leave small gaps spanned with fabric between the main chunks of armour so when you undo it you almost have hinges.


26 Jun 2008 - 15:514027
Quote Amy-Lou:
I'm using chickenwire for the first time on my current costume. You can get great curved shapes, but be prepared to sacrifice your hands. It's vicious stuff.
Putting fleece/felt on the inside sounds like a great idea.

For all round armour one way is to leave small gaps spanned with fabric between the main chunks of armour so when you undo it you almost have hinges.
or attach them to the top with hooks and eyes (i love those things. it's how i got my toadette balls to stay on the hat and i used like 20 on my Ikuto) they even hot glue pretty well because of the holes. ^^


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