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05 Sep 2010 - 16:3540029
Renji Arabai's unawakened Zanpakuto wooden replica
does anyone know where can i buy renji arabai's unawakened zanpakuto (the katana form) i've looked all over but all i seem to find is his awakened version or full 440 steel versions and unless the kita staff are very trusting about metal weapons, i ain't getting in with it XD does anyone know where i can buy a wooden version, please


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05 Sep 2010 - 18:1140033
Unless its balsa wood your weapon probably won't be consafe anyway =/. Do you know what the kita website says about it (I havent looked yet)? Cons generally only allow balsa wood weapons.

My friend made paines sword out of wood/mdf for ame and they wouldn't let her have it. They said she could only use it for outdoor photoshoots.

So if you do end up buying one check the material so you wont be dissapointed at the con ^_^.


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05 Sep 2010 - 18:5840038
Essentially what .Neverbell said tbh, con weapons are sooooooooooo much hassle to get done, you will probs be best off with mount board/blasa and papier mache, if you have a bit of skill/money you might wanna consider fiber glassing it, its the size thats an issue to, some weapons arent allowed to be a certain height ect ect. best off popping on the Kita site and checking it out mabye shooting a couple of questions


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05 Sep 2010 - 19:2140043
Yeah ryukredapples is right, I'd also reccomend making it yourself after looking at kitas guidelines. Theres lots of great prop makers on here who could help you =). You can be sure its light and made in a consafe way then!


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05 Sep 2010 - 20:0140048
Stepping in here as a cosplay officer for Kitacon.

take a look at this please:
http://www.kitacon.org/cosplay/guidelines

Please not the passage:

"The length restriction for your Weapons and Props must not exceed 1.5 Metres"

and

"Weapons and Props made out of Wood are allowed. Light wood, like a Balsa please, but make sure there are no sharp edges. Sandpaper is your friend, makes nice round edges! Plastic and Foam are allowed, but again, make sure the edges are nice and safe."

MDF = NO
It's really not as safe and light as you may think it is and Amecon were 100% correct to take that off your friend.

These rules are not in place for fun, they are in place for your saftey, our saftey and the venues saftey. We aren't saying that everyone with a prop will swing it at people like a maniac but rules have to be in place JUST IN CASE. Unfortunatly this means it applies to everyone and it doesn't matter how safe or carefull you are, we can't make exceptions.

For you to do that sword and keep in con safe so you can walk around at Kitacon with it you must:

1: Make sure it is not longer that 1.5meters in length, this includes the hilt, blade everything, the entire length.

2: You MUST make it from a light wood, Balsa wood is one of the best woods to use, you can glue it together with wood glue to make it thicker and it will be light as a feather. Thats if you must make it from wood. It might be worth looking into foam board. Art shops have it and it's real light, real easy to use and fairly sturdy.

3: No sharp edges under no circumstances, do try to round the edges off a little, just because it's light doesnt mean a point wont hurt someone in say...the eye.

That being said, even after you have made the weapon, once you are at Kitacon, do come to ops or the cosplay workshop room with the sword for inspection so we can make sure it's safe.

Like I said, we don't put these rules in place just to be awkward or anything. It's health and saftey at the end of the day.


05 Sep 2010 - 20:3340052
Well yeah and I did mention it MDF is repurposed and glued and incredibly hard (unfortunately it had already been made for her by a relative and I didnt want to say, yeah no chance =/ I let the people in charge break the bad news).

Materials like foam board/papier mache are easy to use for beginner prop makers like myself (made a kanu sword out of them) and not too expensive so I'd maybe try giving it a go at making a lightweight con version yourself out of things like that ^_^.


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06 Sep 2010 - 14:1340076
lol, i'll try that, i troll the kita forums everday under this same name lol, i will try the custom sword method...and fail, it's just i'm too goddamned lazy to do anything...i'm cant even prcrastinate i'm that lazy O.o guess it's time to go raid B&Q

thnaks for the tips guys

what other wodds are con safe

is plywood or soft wood con safe


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Last edited by Kraxein (06 Sep 2010 - 14:18)
06 Sep 2010 - 15:3040080
Quote Kraxein:


what other wodds are con safe

is plywood or soft wood con safe


Balsa wood.......seriously, it's the best wood to be using for con safe weapons. Saying that.

Plywood is hit or miss it seems. You can have hardwood plywood and softwood plywood it seems, from what I have managed to look up.

Hard wood is deffinatly NOT ALLOWED (BY THIS I MEAN WOOD THAT IS HARD, NO BEND, NO FLEX BALSA WOOD IS FINE). So if someone comes to me with a weapon that I think may be unsuitable, then I'll be inspecting it closley or requesting someones help in identifying the wood used because we really don't want people running around with weapons that are too dangerous.

In general soft wood (BY THIS I MEAN WOOD THAT IS SOFT, FLEXIBLE, LIGHT WEIGHT, HAS BEND) is allowed, but, use common sense. If it's heavy and too rigid, then no, it won't be allowed.

For example:

If your weapon is light, meaning we can lift it with very little effort and it also bends when you wave it (balsa wood will do this, but it's still a sturdy material) then your weapon will be allowed.

If your weapon is heavy and rigid, meaning we have to put effort into lifting it, and it does not bend at all. Then it won't be safe. The only way something like this would be safe is if it's really small......think under 1 foot.

A good idea would be to actually look up other conventiones weapon rules since we all pretty much abide by exactly the same ones. A great example are Amecon's rules. Which can be found here:

http://www.amecon.org.uk/info/cosplay

Scroll down a bit until you see: Weapons and Props - Size and Construction

and just in general, read the entire cosplay rules section because I can tell you right now. We will be opperating in pretty much the same way as far as cosplay is concerned.



Last edited by Lulu Rose (06 Sep 2010 - 18:30) Reason: correcting mistakes Charlotte chan pointed out. Thank you.
06 Sep 2010 - 17:2540086
Quote Lulu Rose:
Balsa wood.......seriously, it's the best wood to be using for con safe weapons. Saying that.

Plywood is hit or miss. You can have hardwood plywood and softwood plywood it seems.

Hard wood is deffinatly NOT ALLOWED. So if someone comes to me with a weapon that I think may be hardwood, then I'll be inspecting it closley or requesting someones help in identifying the wood used because we really don't want people running around with Hard Wood weapons.


You do know that soft wood and hard wood doesn't mean the wood is soft or hard. Balsa for example is actually a hard wood. Even though it is very soft.

Softwood is made out of Coniferous trees
and Hardwood is made out of Deciduous trees.

No offence but maybe if your inspecting wooden weapons you should know a bit more about wood before you do ^^;


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Last edited by Charlotte-chan (06 Sep 2010 - 17:33)
06 Sep 2010 - 18:2640089
Quote Charlotte-chan:


You do know that soft wood and hard wood doesn't mean the wood is soft or hard. Balsa for example is actually a hard wood. Even though it is very soft.

Softwood is made out of Coniferous trees
and Hardwood is made out of Deciduous trees.

No offence but maybe if your inspecting wooden weapons you should know a bit more about wood before you do ^^;


To be honest. I was mostly repeating what I've read on the other conventions prop rules. I looked up plywood and noticed that you can have hard and soft, so thats basicly what I said.

lets be honest, not everyone is going to know everything about every material that could possibly be used in props, what alot of us suffer from is that lack of knowladge. I certainly dont know what tree each type of wood is made from and I'm sure alot of people are the same. You could say "then you should learn it all" but honestly? thats alot of stuff if you consider all the other materials too.

When it comes to it, we will be looking at how hard things are, if they have a bit of give in them, if they are heavy or light and.....well I'm sorry if I assumed that hard wood meant.....hard wood...as in...it's hard.

You may think that someone not knowing that is pretty stupid but honestly, if you don't do much with wood, then you likley wont know. I'm sure I mentioned that if I'm unsure then I'll be asking someone who would likley know. Being a cosplay officer doesn't automaticly mean you know everything about cosplay and it's materials, at the end of the day, we volunteer for these things. We do try.

I'm not trying to get arsey or defensive, I'm mainly explaining myself so please don't take offence, I havn't taken offence to what you have said but I did think I should explain myself.

Also I will try to edit the post to reflect that by hard wood I mean...wood that is hard...I know it's stupid, but it's what I mean. I could try to put together a list of wood that you can and cant use....but honestly I'm not sure what wood other than balsa you could use and still be safe.


06 Sep 2010 - 19:0140090
The soft wood vs hard wood topic was a question on QI in one of their episodes. Enough to show that it's not common knowledge. XD

Just interpret using common sense!


06 Sep 2010 - 19:1440092
Quote Pez:
The soft wood vs hard wood topic was a question on QI in one of their episodes. Enough to show that it's not common knowledge. XD

Just interpret using common sense!


Thats basicly it XD

But, saying that. I'm glad this has come up and I'm glad you pointed it out Charlotte. I think it'd be a great idea to get a list of suitable and non suitable wods based on what we know is suitable. We know Balsa is for example.

Now I'm not the one to do this because I've no idea when it comes to wood and carpentry and trees......so is there anyone out there who is willing to put a list together? I'd love to make a props and weapons rule list for Kitacon thats as informative as possible!


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