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17 Aug 2010 - 17:4838834
Skimpy Cosplays - do they make you a slut?
I have friends who have done small/revealing cosplays, like Yoko, Bunny suits or Felicia for example and I've heard them called sluts. Knowing them on a personal level I wouldn't call them that.

But what's the first thing you think when you see a scantilly clad female cosplayer?

From a girl's pov do you think they're a slut?
From a guy's pov do you think they're a slut or just hot or both?

Do you look at someone in a skimpy cosplay and think...you shouldn't be wearing that if they're over a certain size?

Or is okay if they do lots of normal/coverred cosplays and a skimpy one every once in a while?

Or what if all they do seem to be body revealing ones? Is this only okay if they have the 'body' for it?

Just curious.


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17 Aug 2010 - 18:0138837
Well sometimes its GAOOOOOO *drool* and sometimes its WOW!!! thats really well done! and sometimes even both! I think some ppl like to do a variety of clothed and not so clothed, its mainly down to what u feel comfortable in, its also a gd way for cosplays who woudnt normally dress in skimpy stuff to build up confidence in themselves! most ppl in the community are supportive of all cosplayers and are happy to see ppl give it a try!


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17 Aug 2010 - 18:0138838
At the risk of being lynch mobbed for having an opinion I'm going to put mine out there anyway.

On a personal level, if you do complicated costumes that cover you, and the occasional skimpy one, then that's fine. You're expanding on skills and yes, flaunting your body on occasion.

But when its every costume that you wear is some kind of hot pants and bra, than I think its just attention seeking. I don't think someone is a slut for it, but attention seeking, yes. Perhaps more so when you're not really perfectly built for the character.

If you're a larger girl, and you constantly - please note, I said CONSTANTLY, not OCCASIONALLY - wear skimpy outfits, knowing that you're not the ideal body type for it, and that maybe you don't look as good as you could, then I think that's attention seeking to the max. Because you're getting attention, and likely for the wrong reasons. If you're larger and do a skimpy costume once or twice, or on occasion, then its okay by me.

Speaking personally, I wore a Feena costume from Grandia. I'm not a size eight, I have a pooge-tummy and I wobble a lot in places. But I wore that costume twice, its the skimpiest costume in my completed list, and I wore it because Feena happens to be one of my favourite game characters of all time. I was nervous and uncomfortable for some of the time wearing it, but I did, because I wanted to show my love for the character.

If you make/wear a costume that shows your arse/boobs/ midriff/all of the above, and yet you don't know the character and just do it because the costume IS skimpy, then I have a problem and am prone to thinking you're attention seeking and need validation of some kind.

I wouldn't think someone is a slut for wearing a skimpy costume, because I think its a very harsh word, and it is a very ... strong word too. But attention seeking, yeah.

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17 Aug 2010 - 18:1238841
Wearing a skimpy costume doesn't make a girl inherently a slut, in the same way wearing a low-cut top or short skirt doesn't make her inherently a slut, and no-one "deserves" harassment for their choice of dress (provided it isn't deliberately provocative/offensive).

Having said that, we don't live in a perfect world and I think that, while it is certainly within a girl's right to choose a skimpy costume to wear, she needs to prepare herself for the unwanted attention she will probably get because of it. The fact is that there are a lot of jerks out there who will stare or make rude comments, whether they're of the "phwoaaaaarrrrr!" variety or the "that's disgusting, put some clothes on" variety. And we've all met the creepy gits at anime/sci-fi cons (although they are, thankfully, very much in the minority now). If you're going to wear something skimpy then you need to be prepared to ignore the people who say rude things (this is often more a reflection of their own insecurity than a statement about what you're wearing), and have friends around you whenever possible to back you up in case you do get stuck with a creeper. It sucks that women have to take things like these into consideration, but until we live in more enlightened times, this is what we're stuck with.

As for the body type thing, my personal thought is that not all costumes are meant for all body types, in the same way that not all clothes are meant for all body types. I don't mean that in a "fat people should never cosplay" way, lord knows I could stand to lose a few pounds myself and I wouldn't dream of dictating to anyone else what they should or should not wear or cosplay. But some costumes will naturally flatter certain body types better than others, and that's just the way it is. It's up to you to decide whether that knowledge is a compelling enough factor to prevent you from doing what you love


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17 Aug 2010 - 19:0938848
This subject has been playing on my mind for a while now. Ive even gone as far as asking my friends if they'd judge me for choosing to do a skimpy cosplay.

When I see girls cosplaying characters which lack clothing, my first reaction is kudos to them. They're brave to do that!
I agree with Silver though, I think if a person repeatedly cosplays characters scantily clad then maybe they are just attention seeking.

The idea of cosplaying some of my favourite characters which might be revealing terrifies me not only because of my lack of confidence in myself but in what others peoples opinions of me would be, especially considering if they hadn't taken the time to get to know me first. But then on the other hand I could kind of understand peoples judgements if they saw a skimpy cosplay. This is what really puts me off doing any myself.

I think its ok if your doing it because you really love a character, but really kind of wrong to choose a character to show yourself off. Showing off your best features in a flattering outfit is understandable, using a convention or expo to strip down to your undies for attention really isn't.


17 Aug 2010 - 19:1738851
I think it just bothers me when someone takes a cosplay and purposely makes it skimpier than it's meant to be. That's attention seeking. For example I saw a Resi 2 Ada cosplay on DA that had a ridiculously short dress (yes the dress is above knee but she literally only just had her underwear covered) and then she was posing with her legs wide open. If your uncomfortable with something being too short then feel free to lengthen it but making something shorter is just going "Look at me!".

In general skimpy outfits don't bother me because at the end of the day most people wear less at the beach...


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17 Aug 2010 - 19:3238852
I generally think 'God I wish I had the body/confidence to do that she looks great!' so I don't think they are sluts, cause they arn't doing it to like get guys, they are doing it to cosplay and maybe they want to get some attention but thats not sluty, I admire the girls who have the balls to do some of them as I'd love to, you looked awesome as Lum!


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17 Aug 2010 - 20:2238853
Wondered whether or not to post in here at the risk of sounding elitist :/
Tbh a lot of what I would say has been said by Silver.

I wouldn't call someone a slut just for wearing a skimpy cosplay, it's just unneccessarily mean and rude. If they are wearing them on a regular basis to cons then yes, I might consider them attention seeking but not sluts. If most of their stuff is skimpy then I would tend to think that they are obviously doing it to provoke reactions from the public rather than anything else.

But really, if someone is wearing something skimpier than what they usually do, I generally think they are incredibly brave! (Such as Street-Angel's Lum <3)

Out of my cosplay list I have to say my Mink from Dragon Half is the most daring thing I have ever done. And yes, I know I'm not terribly skinny but I have (or at least had) some very feminin curves, loved the 2 episodes that were released and I thought it'd be fun. Also it was a "confidence cosplay", one that I'd wanted to do but always stopped myself because of my weight, until a friend and I just went "screw it, why should I care what other people think?"

Of course there's always the added argument of weight and cosplay. I would never tell someone that they were too fat for a cosplay, but I would suggest that they maybe try cosplays more suited to their body type. Let's face it, seeing a size 18-20 girl doing some sort of bikini cosplay is likely to cause a lot of controversy whether they are just doing it for fun or not. Whereas, someone who has the body to be able to pull something like that off well, if all they do is skimpy stuff simply because they can, I'd feel a bit sad for them because it would seem to me like they were just exploiting themselves for the sake of popularity.
There are more than a few cosplays that I want to do that are slimmer than I am, I'm currently a 12-14 as I have put on a bit of weight, but I'm hoping to get back to a size 10. In my opinion I would rather do these dream cosplays at my ideal weight, otherwise I'd hate looking at all the photos and I'd just be embarrassed to be looked at.

So yeah, I rambled. Stuff!


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17 Aug 2010 - 20:2738854
I think the only question you would need to ask is that are you wearing the costume because you love the character/costume or are you wearing it to seek attention?

If you don't want to do it just for the attention then I see no reason why anyone should be called a slut for wearing a cosplay which shows more flesh than others.


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17 Aug 2010 - 20:4838855
I'm gonna put my opinated view on the matter.

It depends. I've felt that some girl's have been slutty with cosplays, but that's cause I've known for a fact that they just doing it cause the cosplay is skimpy. They don't know the character, the manga or anything that warrents why they are in that cosplay.

But there's also attention seeking,like when cosplays are made skimpier. Lengthening is okay, but shortening? errr noes.

And also changing cosplays almost completely - I'm sorry, but there is only one Sexy No Jutsu, and that's Naruto. Kakashi, Sasuke etc do no do that technique. If they did, fair game, but they don't, so don't cosplay that. It's silly.

Just doing a skimpy cosplay isn't slutty - it's being confident. Making a cosplay skimpier is attention seeking. Cosplaying for the sake of being in next to nothing - that's sluttish.

Now with weight and skimpy cosplays.

If you're confident enough, then don't let it stop you. However, please remember that there are people out there that can be really nasty about anyone above size 8 and not wearing a lot. Or wearing tight clothes. Or whatever.

On the flip side, if you are slender and all that, you're still gonna get derogative comments, from guys treating you like a slab of meat to people viewing you as a slut.

Personally, I consider myself to be too fat and ugly for skimpy cosplays. Even so, if I did have all the curves in the right places I probably wouldn't have the confidence anyway, on the fact that I have excess hair growth.

Anyway, I don't think it's size as much as shape in this. I seen many a girls who are a larger size who look better than the thinner girls.


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17 Aug 2010 - 21:1138858
I apologise in advance as I feel I may put my foot in my mouth a few times in this.

Ok, does skimpy cosplays make you a slut: I hope not, as I'm intending to do Black Rock Shooter eventually, haha. But seriously, I agree with what's been said above: if it's one or two within a gallery of other costumes, no, but if all you do is skimpy, then yeah you could be considered a bit of a slut and you might be treated rather horribly.
If you wear a skimpy costume, you should really expect/ be prepared for horrible/crude comments sometimes as it kind of goes with the territory, I think.

Weight and skimpy? Honestly, I personally dislike seeing larger people do skimpy costumes, I applaud them for having the guts to do so but I would rather see them do something amazing that suited them rather than well.. that. >.> I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, but it's just not the best choice for them, I feel.
But at the same time, I don't think only skinny people should do skinny characters and only larger people should do larger characters as sometimes it really works the other way around: e.g. larger girls do better as Lulu as all though she is pretty skinny, most skinny girls just don't have the bust to do her to the max.

*shuffles away*



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17 Aug 2010 - 21:1338859
Lets face facts, a slut is someone who sleeps with a number of random men all the time

if you dont do that, and your just wearing skimpy clothes, your not a slut lmao its simple


17 Aug 2010 - 21:3238861
I've done a few skimpy cosplays in the past, and I do it because Im only brave enough to show off that much flesh in cosplay. I only live once so I might aswell! Thats how I see it.

It doesn't make you a 'slut' for wearing skimpy clothing, a 'slut' is generically someone who sleeps around with alot of guys, etc.

There a select few girls on here who have made is quite clear they really don't like me just because I chose to do a few skimpy costumes, they blatantly ignore me at expos, cons etc. If they are going to prejudge me like that, then they are not worth knowing too me!



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17 Aug 2010 - 21:3738862
Quote ryaoki:
Lets face facts, a slut is someone who sleeps with a number of random men all the time

if you dont do that, and your just wearing skimpy clothes, your not a slut lmao its simple


This.

And pretty much just agreeing with what Silver said. I also think there's a difference between wearing skimpy costume at cons, or just taking photos, but maybe that's just me. ^^;


17 Aug 2010 - 21:4038863
For an analogy, I bought a short dress recently because I saw it in a shop window and was like IT'S GORGEOUS I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT. Then I tried it on and though DAMN YES. THIS DRESS WAS MADE FOR ME. So I wore this dress to a party the other day because not only did I love it, I looked good in it.

The topic of wearing cosplays that suit your body type has been rehashed several times here in the past, so I'll spam my cosplay mantra for anyone who hasn't heard it already - You are NOT making a costume for the character, you are making it for YOU. (/the person who's going to be wearing it, if it's for someone else.) Adapting a costume to enhance your favourite assets and downplay/hide your not-so-favourite assets I don't think makes you a slut, as I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to look good. But that isn't the primary factor in choosing characters to cosplay either.


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17 Aug 2010 - 21:4538864
I think I agree with everything that's been said so far

But as well, I think it also matters whether everything you do is skimpy and if you are choosing the cosplays because of that.
Now that is a very attention seeking thing to do, so I guess it all rolls back into that


17 Aug 2010 - 21:4638865
I've noticed that this thread has purely stuck to female skimpy cosplay. Is a guy that has revealed a lot for cosplay a slut? Completely topless or with bare stomach and thighs for example? Or do the same rules not apply?


17 Aug 2010 - 21:5538866
Quote Telly:
Quote ryaoki:
Lets face facts, a slut is someone who sleeps with a number of random men all the time

if you dont do that, and your just wearing skimpy clothes, your not a slut lmao its simple


This.
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My feminist is raging here.

Slut shaming like this is something I have tremendous issue with. If a woman is having sex with many people it is up to her and you have no right to consider her a slut for what a man would be considered to be a stud for.

Calling skimpy costumes attention seeking like it's a bad thing is silly. Wearing a bikini is just as attention seeking than me going about in armour, it's not fair to be "you're cool" to me and then calling a woman an attention seeker for for what they're wearing too.

The main thing I think when I see a skimpy costume is worry that they'll be too cold or that someone will be a dick to them because of it. I'm always worried about the girls who do skits with me as they're wearing sexy clothing, and people are judgemental and don't realise women's rights aren't just about being able to vote but to be treated equally.

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17 Aug 2010 - 22:1738870
Hmm, I think it's easier for me to put my thoughts on skimpy cosplays by saying why I do skimpy cosplay from time to time...

I pick my cosplays based on a mixture of:
1. Love for the character (most morally correct)
2. Whether s/he resembles me enough (easy ride)
3. If I could really rock it (attention-seeking motive)
4. A group thinks I'd be perfect (altruistic)

And TBH, it is rarely no.1 that is my modus operandii.

I'll be the first to put up my hand and say that I like the attention I get when I wear a skimpy cosplay. But I also like the attention I get when I do an epic cosplay, or a hot sexy male crossplay. Off-duty from cosplay, I'm a lolita, it may be modest but it's flashy and turns heads. So it's official, I like attention.

I am also prepared to accept that I can get negative attention too. I know that strangers have probably fapped to my photos. That's ok, I'm in the public eye as it is, it will happen and has happened (I only get angry if I get backstabbed or someone I thought was ok turns out to be a creepy ****) D:

Thankfully, my body is mostly fine for sexy cosplay so I don't worry about whether I look bad, as I wouldn't do a cosplay unless I looked good in it (yes, I'm vain, I will shave everything, I will starve for a few days, etc.) - so when I see other people cosplaying, I don't care if you're bigger or chubbier, I just want to see you've made an effort and that it fits and flatters you! I don't cosplay characters that don't suit me (and there are plenty that don't), it may be a little selfish of me to think so, but I am aware of my limits so others should be aware of theirs too.

Therein is the crux - I like cosplays which make me look hot. Male, female, skimpy or covered up, if I know I look good and that the character suits me and that I can totally pull it off well, I will do it. I am a photo whore, I love getting great photos of myself.

Maybe I'm super confident, optimistic or just naive, but I like the joy I bring to my friends when they see me in great cosplay. And skimpy cosplay makes for the best reactions and stupid/OOC photoshoots! Oh, and I never go on 2-chan/4-chan/X-chan so I don't know if anyone snarks me and I don't care.

What is a slut? I'm married and have been utterly faithful for fifteen years, but I am an outrageous flirt with both men and women. Particularly when I'm crossplaying a pretty man, as that gets me the best of both of worlds ^_~

As for sleeping around, I don't, but I don't judge people if they do as long as all parties are having fun and being responsible, y'know. In fact, I'm sometimes jealous of their ability to experiment ^^

Or does slut equate to being "easy"? In which case, that maaaay actually apply - i.e. you have to be pretty damn confident to cosplay skimpy stuff regularly, and a lot of body confident people are sexually confident too, so they may be more willing to agree to a roll in the hay? And even then, I'd only call someone a slut in jest/as a compliment i.e. you dirty sexy thing, you! ♥

So, I'm vain, attention-seeking, only wear cosplays that look hot on me, regularly molest (willing, mind) men/women and thoroughly encourage others to do wicked things. If that makes me a slut, so be it.

But please, even us "sluts" have standards y'know XD Just 'cos we're hot doesn't mean we'll sleep with anyone *rolls eyes*

Maybe it's consideration for others and one's overall impression that counts for more? Attracting too much attention (e.g. skimpy Shura's thong can come out at a closed convention, not one open to the public) or not causing offense (Nazi-esque Isaak's red armband only goes on for photoshoots or onsite!), sleeping around and NOT being responsible / being an arsehat.


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17 Aug 2010 - 22:1738871
I agree with tab- It suprises me that a thread like this should really appear considering we're supposed to be a community of like-minded, passionate, creative people. Given that cosplay is there for people to have fun in costume (emphasis on fun) whether it's skimpy or not shouldn't be the issue.
Cosplaying for your body shape to emphasis what you're proud of and what looks good one you should not be a crime and or a point for criticism.

If the rules were 'nobody can dress like this' then clearly it'd be a very boring cosplay scene for sure. Be you a guy or a girl i think you should cosplay to your strong point be it with a lot on or not.
I feel i can say this since i went all out this year and did something i thought would provoke a bit of criticism but did it to show im a damn good cosplayer whether i'm in a skimpy outfit or not.

Skimpy does not equal slut it only shows that those who try to make a point about how someone looks in an outfit are far too judgemental to given the chance to do so.

Grrrrrr rage- *ahem* go about your business!


17 Aug 2010 - 23:0138872
Quote KhaosKreator:
My feminist is raging here.

Slut shaming like this is something I have tremendous issue with. If a woman is having sex with many people it is up to her and you have no right to consider her a slut for what a man would be considered to be a stud for.

Agreed whole-heartedly.

Not to mention that how many sexual partners a woman chooses to have, provided no-one is getting hurt, is nobody's damn business but her own. Women's bodies are not public domain.


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17 Aug 2010 - 23:2438874
Quote Sillabub:
Quote KhaosKreator:
My feminist is raging here.

Slut shaming like this is something I have tremendous issue with. If a woman is having sex with many people it is up to her and you have no right to consider her a slut for what a man would be considered to be a stud for.

Agreed whole-heartedly.

Not to mention that how many sexual partners a woman chooses to have, provided no-one is getting hurt, is nobody's damn business but her own. Women's bodies are not public domain.


Well said.

I think that to judge what people wear based on the revealing nature and gender (or weight or whatever) is just sad. Why shouldn't we allow women (or men) to dress in 'skimpy' cosplay/clothes? Why can't bigger girls dress as skinny characters? If we're going for the big contraversial stuff here, are we saying black cosplayers can't cosplay white characters?

And as for 'attention seekers', surely we're all doing this for some form of attention? Otherwise why get your photos taken in your costume and wear them to events and enter them in Masquerades and what not?


17 Aug 2010 - 23:2838875
Quote kiichan:
I've noticed that this thread has purely stuck to female skimpy cosplay. Is a guy that has revealed a lot for cosplay a slut? Completely topless or with bare stomach and thighs for example? Or do the same rules not apply?


If Andy is anything to go by then men wearing little gets them mistaken for girls XD


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18 Aug 2010 - 00:0338877
But what's the first thing you think when you see a scantilly clad female cosplayer?

Sometimes, when I see the odd one that's an OC << that's particularly next to nothing in dress sense, I tend to look twice and frown a little, because they get A LOT of attention for the simple fact it's 'sexy', kudos for there impressive designs, but I personally wouldn't spend so long on someone that wasn't even an already made character that I could adore enough to chance it.

From a girl's pov do you think they're a slut?
Next to no times I think a girl is a slut, normally I just think it's good when they have good designs on a skimpy outfit, to show craftsmanship is impressive.


From a guy's pov do you think they're a slut or just hot or both?

If it was a character I liked, and I was a guy, I might of been attracted, an OC I'd think 'ooh they're kinda hot' but I'm more likely to be more awe-struck at a well done character I liked personally.

Do you look at someone in a skimpy cosplay and think...you shouldn't be wearing that if they're over a certain size?
I don't really know how to answer that.
I mean, sometimes people can just be a little bit bigger then there character, I do A LOT of working out to be able to go between boy-ish and girl-ish characters, and work all the time on keeping my body curved and athletic, which is hard work. But some people can have problems causing them to stay a certain weight, I think to a big extent it's fine to cosplay a character if you're big, just, sometimes there's a limit. Like a bikini cosplay if you're the size of someone on there death bed, might get some mean comments. Like all societies, anyone can get ripped at least once. IDK if I've slipped up here, I'm tired.

Or is okay if they do lots of normal/coverred cosplays and a skimpy one every once in a while?
I would be more impressed by a person if they done this, variety is the best thing in the world, I do it, and I dress boy-ish ALL the time, I have a boy-ish personality, but I'm wearing Yoko to Sunday of October London Expo without a care in the world.

Or what if all they do seem to be body revealing ones? Is this only okay if they have the 'body' for it?
No-one is perfect, just because people cosplay doesn't make them pro models, meaning they don't have ace bodies. Anyone can do what they want, if you're bigger you just have to steel yourself to throw the comments over your shoulder. Some people will be attracted or compliment, others will insult.
I'm a size 8, and I've even been called fat before!

Whoever this issue is for personally, I would tell them not to worry about others opinions, and do what they want. And if it's just a curiosity post, well, like any other place, there WILL be sluts, just a minor amount.

The word slut is over-rated and exaggerated these days, it has a very loose meaning now.


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18 Aug 2010 - 19:0538914
"Slut" is basically a slang word for a girl who sleeps around a lot because she can, there's not really like a dictionary definition for it.

I know girls who literally change boyfriends every week but I wouldn't consider them all to be sluts, just v. indecisive or don't really know what they want.

If they are easy and sleep around with just about anyone and everyone because they can then yeah they are basically a slut, but I wouldn't hold that against them. It is their business, and people should respect that as long as nobody is getting hurt, but if you were to go by what people consider a "slut" to be, (sleeping around with people for the sake of it) then yes it does make them a slut by default basically. Oh well!

Much like me liking anime and dressing up as my favorite characters probably makes me a bit of a geek in the eyes of a lot of people but oh well, tough shit basically! It happens! Even the most innocent of hobbies will get you labelled as something negative. Just gotta accept it and move on.

From a guys point of view I will say no, it doesn't make you a "slut" maybe a bit of an exhibitionist but that's your choice and if you think you've got it, why not flaunt it? Same applies to guys too.



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