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25 Jul 2010 - 12:5337020
Whats the difference between a Con ans an Expo?
i mean when ive watched youtube vids and visited website

the Londom/Midlands MCM expo and cons look not to much different

I would just like to know

Since the manchester expo will be my first con/expo

i'd like to know the differences

thanks xD

p.s - yeah i know stupid question



Last edited by Kaiblader (25 Jul 2010 - 13:01)
25 Jul 2010 - 15:0537023
Er, I THINK that a Con is based around one thing like an anime con is just ANIME ANIME ANIME but an expo is like loads of stuff, a bit of everything.

Common misconception is that MCM is an anime con, it's actually an expo because it's movies comics media and anime....falls under the media bit I would assume ^^

So yeah turn up in a Sakura cosplay at a Star Trek convention = bad idea. Turn up in a Sakura cosplay at an expo with Star Trek in it = Not so bad idea! ^_^


25 Jul 2010 - 15:1037024
Cons are much smaller, they're run by fans for fans so they're much more community based. You get alot more people at expos and they're commercially run for profit. You also get different kinds of events at cons compared to expos (but both have masquerades ect). Almost all cons in the UK (baring a few) have a age restrictions, so while you get alot of younger people at expos, cons generally will be attended by those 16/18+.

Uhhh they're just some points, i'm sure there are alot more. XD


25 Jul 2010 - 16:1837025
Essentially, a convention will be a lot more focussed on one thing, in our case, usually animé/manga/video games. They're designed more on events based around these things. So you'll get things like panels, voice-actors attending (and usually hanging out randomly with us in bars etc. LOL), karaoke rooms, games rooms, a dealer's room (where you can buy things), bring-and-buy sales, rooms to watch animé.

There are usually a lot more events based on cosplay too. There are generally costume construction competitions, a separate masquerade (where you go on stage/along a catwalk to show off your costume) and an omake/talent show. There are also parties each night, one on Friday, one on Saturday and one on Sunday. The event on the Sunday night is usually a formal ball from what I can see so it's more elegant and relaxed.

Expos on the other hand are, as the name impliese, exhibitions. It's primarily a giant dealer's room with other events going on around it.

From what I've seen lately, the MCM expo seems to be going down more of a convention route, extending the event to three days, giving cosplay more of an area etc.

One of the biggest differences is the amount of people who attend. I think the last MCM Expo had something between 20-40,000 people attending whereas conventions can have anything from 300-900 people attending but once they reach their maximum that's it.

As others have said, Expos of any type are also usually run for profit, whereas most conventions scrape even or if they do make profit, that profit goes straight back into the next event as Conventions are run by fans and therefore not as a job.


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25 Jul 2010 - 19:1637035
wow thanks!

So its still ok to turn up in cosplay at an expo?
Do many people turn up in copslay at Expo?

Thanks again ^-^


25 Jul 2010 - 19:3937037
Oh yeah cosplay's really big at expo and Expo seem to be expanding their cosplay side which is good so you'll be in good company ^_^


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25 Jul 2010 - 20:0337038
Phew so at manchester expo i wont be alone and look completely out of place xD

thanks


25 Jul 2010 - 20:2037040
Quote EternalNight:
Phew so at manchester expo i wont be alone and look completely out of place xD

thanks


No I'm sure you won't ^_^ I've been to several London Expos and Telford Expos and they were all full of cosplayers ^_^


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25 Jul 2010 - 20:2637041
The Queue's...Oh the Queues XD


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25 Jul 2010 - 20:3437043
Queues?
how bad? and what for?


25 Jul 2010 - 22:0937054
Quote EternalNight:
Queues?
how bad? and what for?


To get into the Expos. As sjbonnar mentioned there can be 20,000 + people attending and they all have to get stamps/wristbands before entering the event itself. Meaning huge queues!


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25 Jul 2010 - 23:2837056
Ohmy the queues on saturday in May! Deary me it was literally the length of the entire excel center and then some x____x just walking to the end was a killer xD and on the way up loads of people wanted a hug and some girl was clinging onto me and going "NO YOU'RE STAYING HERE" while this expo woman was like "BACK OF THE QUEUE, NO PUSHING IN! BEEIL' DICH, OPFER!" Okay she didn't yell at me in german I added that to create the impression of militance but still xD

YEAH it was a long queue, I learned all about Beyblades from the people behind me. ...Aaaand I've completely forgetten it all


26 Jul 2010 - 18:1237076
A lot of people have mentioned the size difference - but neglected to mention that the size greatly impacts the atmosphere of the event. Conventions are typically a lot smaller, and thus more intimate. A lot of convention events promote interaction with other fans as well... so basically conventions are a better social experience (providing you are old enough to attend)


26 Jul 2010 - 18:4137079
Quote Snap:
A lot of people have mentioned the size difference - but neglected to mention that the size greatly impacts the atmosphere of the event. Conventions are typically a lot smaller, and thus more intimate. A lot of convention events promote interaction with other fans as well... so basically conventions are a better social experience (providing you are old enough to attend)


That much is definitely true. And I think due to the buzz of the expo, there always seems to be more of a rush to get everything done whereas at conventions things feel more relaxed.

It also helps that at conventions, events seem to be running non-stop, from about 9am often until 2 or 3 in the morning. And there are a lot of things to do if you don't like a particular event.

Don't like the formal ball? You can go to karaoke. Don't like the panel that's currently running, you can go to a different panel, a games room, watch some animé etc.


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26 Jul 2010 - 18:5337080
What about if you pre-book for a Expo?

Hopefully when the manchester expo website up you'll be able to do that

What happens to the pre-book line?
or whatnot
sorry for the questions xD


26 Jul 2010 - 18:5437081
You get to experience disappointment slightly faster.


26 Jul 2010 - 18:5637083
What do you mean?


26 Jul 2010 - 22:2137093
The last London MCM Expo was 41,000 people big, ranges from cult media to comics to film to roleplay to games to anime, etc, and is absolutely massive.

The longest running UK convention is MinamiCon which is about 400 people, but is anime centered and anything else is peripheral (but still there to some extent), while in the summer you'll have say AmeCon or AyaCon which are more in the 1,200 area.

The larger the event the more chance of meeting people with similar interests, the larger variety in cosplay, the less cohesive it is so if you plan to flit about or do your own thing you don't feel like you're missing out on something else going on.

The smaller the event, the more intimate and close-knit the attendance, the more ..catered entertainment is I guess you could put it, and the less bustling crowds, the easier it is to see people again and not lose them, the easier it is to relax around in a bar or similar rather than a gigantic open hall etc.


The attendees are somewhat different because of the above too, Expo is for everyone, you'll get adults, teenagers, kids, families, all sorts. It's cheap to get in, no size limits, etc, people can come on a whim or be dragged by more enthusiastic friends, and so on. There's a large percentage of hyperactive teenagers, because, well, how many other events like this can they attend? XD But you do get that huge variety of people and interests, and costumes!

Conventions are much more of a commitment, you have to know you're going to be free those dates and book 6-8 months in advance, sort out accomodation and travel in advance and the money certainly can add up, with an age limit of 18+ that most have too, the audience is generally more.. dedicated? and less bouncing-off-the-walls, though I'd hesitate to say mature and responsible

Think of it as quality vs. quantity.. You'll typically meet more people at an expo, but spend more quality time with people at a con, the event is more specific and catered, more small quieter rooms and less big-open-loud hall. It's worth saying that 80% of whether you enjoy an event or not is who you spend it with/meet there!


Expo's are good for first-timers, go along, meet people, see what it's like and then if you've liked it so far turn your eye towards upcoming conventions, and find out if any of your newfound friends are going too.


27 Jul 2010 - 07:3037098
Quote Snap:
You get to experience disappointment slightly faster.


Lol though the ques are still almost just as long!


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27 Jul 2010 - 08:4837100
Quote nert:
The last London MCM Expo was 41,000 people big, ranges from cult media to comics to film to roleplay to games to anime, etc, and is absolutely massive.

The longest running UK convention is MinamiCon which is about 400 people, but is anime centered and anything else is peripheral (but still there to some extent), while in the summer you'll have say AmeCon or AyaCon which are more in the 1,200 area.

The larger the event the more chance of meeting people with similar interests, the larger variety in cosplay, the less cohesive it is so if you plan to flit about or do your own thing you don't feel like you're missing out on something else going on.

The smaller the event, the more intimate and close-knit the attendance, the more ..catered entertainment is I guess you could put it, and the less bustling crowds, the easier it is to see people again and not lose them, the easier it is to relax around in a bar or similar rather than a gigantic open hall etc.


The attendees are somewhat different because of the above too, Expo is for everyone, you'll get adults, teenagers, kids, families, all sorts. It's cheap to get in, no size limits, etc, people can come on a whim or be dragged by more enthusiastic friends, and so on. There's a large percentage of hyperactive teenagers, because, well, how many other events like this can they attend? XD But you do get that huge variety of people and interests, and costumes!

Conventions are much more of a commitment, you have to know you're going to be free those dates and book 6-8 months in advance, sort out accomodation and travel in advance and the money certainly can add up, with an age limit of 18+ that most have too, the audience is generally more.. dedicated? and less bouncing-off-the-walls, though I'd hesitate to say mature and responsible

Think of it as quality vs. quantity.. You'll typically meet more people at an expo, but spend more quality time with people at a con, the event is more specific and catered, more small quieter rooms and less big-open-loud hall. It's worth saying that 80% of whether you enjoy an event or not is who you spend it with/meet there!


Expo's are good for first-timers, go along, meet people, see what it's like and then if you've liked it so far turn your eye towards upcoming conventions, and find out if any of your newfound friends are going too.


Thanks! But im guessing since manchester is smaller, there are maybe going to be less people going next year unlike the 41,000. Since also that is London?


29 Jul 2010 - 14:3137359
Can't truthfully say since I've only been to the London one but it's essentially the same event in a different place, definitely smaller but probably still larger than the average con, and still as easy to get into


29 Jul 2010 - 15:4637370
As someone who has attended cons and collectors fairs (Expo)for 18 years I have noticed the main differences are;

Cons have limited reg numbers that can go.

Cons tend to have an all day programme of events. Including night time parties.

Cons will have a discounted rate for the hotel that they are being held in (near by hotel as well).

Cons do usually focus of one show or gendre.

Collectors fairs usually have more dealers tables.

Collectors fairs can be multi-show.

Collectors fairs can have special events that are done by sponsers.

Collectors fairs ususally have a cheaper reg fee.


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