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28 Jun 2010 - 23:1335349
Discrimination aganst cosplayers
Hi
i am posting this because of what happend to me in the past.I started reading manga and watching anime around 10/11.Some people took this as a bad thing,said it was childish.But around 15 i started a manga/anime club at my high school.There was a good amount of people who joind.but there are two things that i always remember,
1.an ass attaking me at a con(See Worst case scenario
in cosplay Blue clover post for Info)
2.A friend just stoped talking to me for liking cosplay,manga and anime.
I just want to know if anyone has had a similar thing happen to them.


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29 Jun 2010 - 00:1035351
You are always going to have negative experiences, regardless of what group you are in.

When you grow up there are certain stereotypes you are meant to fall into, so it's not uncommon to hear that the whole "anime is for kids arguement" given that almost 90% of people who see people watching anime regardless of it's content will call it a cartoon and associate it as being something for children.


29 Jun 2010 - 00:1535352
You get bashed about a lot no matter what group or interest your into. It's how life is. People like things, people hate it and see it as a bad thing cuz it's different to what they see everyday and it goes on like it.

It happens to everyone. Anime fans or not.


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29 Jun 2010 - 09:1635364
I was told that I shouldnt cosplay because I'm not skinny. I'm a rather big girl and well I enjoy doing it but the thing is you are going to get a bad experience no matter what you do.

Just ignore them and enjoy yourself.


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29 Jun 2010 - 09:2135365
rember the golden rule if some one one puts you down they ain worth the time of day they wanna get physical call defrain theyll soon run


29 Jun 2010 - 09:3135368
I digress, sorry.
These things happen peter. Discrimination is everywhere, unfortunately.

The best antidote to discrimination is always understanding. If that friend matters to you, talk to them until they understand. If they refuse to, then perhaps you don't mean much to them.

Discrimination is usually because of one of, or the combination of, two things: preconception and fear. I am 1) female, 2) foreign, 3) look like a teenager to some people although I'm already 28, and 4) bisexual. I work as a civil engineer. When I go to construction sites, I sometimes get looks and get ignored because of the first three points. But once the foremen realise I know what I'm talking about, they treat me with respect. As for point 4 (and sometimes 2), I get jeers and shouts sometimes when I'm out with my girlfriend. But still, I'm happy with my life because I can change people's opinion and make them realise young foreign women can be capable, and lesbians can go out just like straight couples. Of course there are times when it's best to ignore them and walk away, but where I can, I try to make people understand.

It can take a lot of time to change people's attitudes, but if you see every time people show discrimination as a chance to change them, then you're on your way to getting on top of the issue.

I'm not a religious person, but the serenity prayer is something I love very much:

God, grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.



Last edited by Pez (29 Jun 2010 - 09:39)
29 Jun 2010 - 10:2035373
My friends and I got a lot of jip for our anime, manga, cosplay etc whilst at school. On top of that, one person (who was friends with one of us) stopped being friends and became a massive bully - singing the funeral march to a guy friend of ours when his bf was dying, throwing things at her ex-friend and insulting her appearance. Just a lot of really out of order things.

However, when we finally set up Springwood's Anime and Manga Society, a lot of people showed up - even those who were like "I have no clue what this is" and use to insult us cause of our likes - they go every week to the club now!

There are some really closed mind people who see any difference from themselves as wrong. Then there are people who change and realise that this cartoon is actually pretty damn decent.

To be honest, it's rather sad of those people.

As with your friend, explain it to them as stated. If they still stop being friends... Well, refusing to be friends with someone because they dress up and watch cartoons (from their eyes) is rather sad on their behalf. They may be thinking that "oh this person is really immature etc" but I think that's more immature personally.


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29 Jun 2010 - 13:5535380
I've been lucky to have a very accepting group of friends, they've never minded me cosplaying, as long as I don't try and get them into it hahahahaha.

Basically, while there are those who will discrimnate against you, there will be plenty more who accept it, or even don't care. I did get bullied and jeered a bit for liking anime (especially since I got into it later) but as long as I kept on being myself it was fine.

I don't really mind stuff being said in the streets whenever I'm wondering around in public after a con, mostly beucase if I wasn't into cosplay I would be pretty dam scared, seeing people like us hahahaha.
However, at a con once, my friends and I were wandering around in our Harry Potter cosplays. 1 set of chavs shouted things at us; 3 sets of people asked us what was going on, and they all were accepting of it and interested. A real life example shows that only 1/4 of them ACTUALLY HAD A PROBLEM with us cosplaying. And....... they're chavs.

Humans discrimate. But if you're able to deal with it maturely and sensibly, then it shows that you are the better person ^^


29 Jun 2010 - 16:1735387
Im in the Air Force so being into anime, manga and god forbid cosplay is a huge no no!

xD

I remember when the guys at work found out, they thought i was into L.A.R.P and they still continue to ask if i've slayed any Orcs recently xD

lucky we banter eachother alot so i don't take it personally


29 Jun 2010 - 16:3535388
Quote Numta3:
Im in the Air Force so being into anime, manga and god forbid cosplay is a huge no no!

xD

I remember when the guys at work found out, they thought i was into L.A.R.P and they still continue to ask if i've slayed any Orcs recently xD

lucky we banter eachother alot so i don't take it personally


My friend (who's back from Afgan! w00t!) has a lot of banter with his team. It's cause he's the "girliest" out of them lolz. There's a certain sense of brotherliness out of them I feel... They'll take the pee but y'know it never means much (just like with sisters just not as b*tchy lolz).

I'm quite lucky that my family find it interesting rather than weird. I s'pose that's the luck of having a pantomine loving family XD


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29 Jun 2010 - 17:5735390
Hmmm.
I don't get discriminated against or anything much. I once got cornered because I was a goth-and therefore worshipped satan. Says who!?- but they haven't bothered me again.

People don't bug me much.
I like to think it's because either: I look too innocent(?) and kind(?).
Or I have a cool creepy 'I will curse you' aura.

The latter sounds way cooler.

Also, I've never cosplayed before but my friends seem to go "Cosplay? Oh okay." They think all this kind of stuff is okay for me. <3



Last edited by ArcherPlusle (29 Jun 2010 - 17:59)
29 Jun 2010 - 20:3935399
Discrimination is everywhere, I suppose.

I mean, it's ridiculous. At high school, I was 'that emo girl' who everyone thought was cutting herself just because I dressed up emp style and listened to punk rock music. How dumb is that?

And the anime thing, gosh, all of the chavs like to say how 'childish' it is and how 'only people who have no lives' watch it and they find me a freak 'cause I cosplay.

But still, that's how the social world is, I guess. Gotta live with it.


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29 Jun 2010 - 23:3335413
the spirit of cosplay"We Never Judge"
Reading all the posts i have seen some great spirit in them.And the fact that you all dont seem to judge.

Pez your determination to show people who you are is amazing at the very least.Its the fact that you take the time to talk to people you seem to give them a second chance.I am not that forgiving most of the time.But people on the site are helping me see better.You too.
Your prayer is very hart felt.
I have always liked this qote = The actions we comit for love gose beond good and evil.It is the undertone that i like.

Archerpluse when i was at high school i was kinda a punk goth.Not full but near.there are a lot of people that dont like goths but i dont juge peole on there taste in music,sex,religion,hobbies ect. i was one after all.
P.S The latter dose sound cool

Blue clover dont think that you have to live with it.We all have oure limits but if i have learnd anything from the people of this site is that people can be ignorant and judge but we dont judge them for there ignorance.
Thanks for reading this rant I have come away a better person for all of your posts on this page.
P.S Hope to see you at the 2010 collector mania con glasgow Agust 21st 22nd Braihead arena.THANKS ALL


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30 Jun 2010 - 13:4135419
Ok so this may make me sound very old but...

I've been discriminated against all my life. It's just a fact of life for me. I've never been the sort who fits into any 'box' that society wants to put me in and have always flitted between the different things I like. Even now when I'm almost 30 I've got my narrow minded tutor at college complaining that I shouldn't be doing fine art because my work is too "illustrative"...

Why can't I just be who I am?

At the end of the day why should I care what some narrow minded little strangers think?

If people can't accept you for who you are they are not worth knowing!!

And this applies to cosplay or any other aspect of your life if your 'friends' don't accept your love of anime or cosplay or anything else for that matter were they really your 'friends' in the first place?

I've also found the older you get the more 'real' friends you find.


30 Jun 2010 - 15:5535425
Quote shiro_kitsune_rei:
I've also found the older you get the more 'real' friends you find.


Truer words have never been written.
Probably.

Time disintigrates all those masks that people use to hide with.
<3


30 Jun 2010 - 17:0835427
dude, i get bashed for wearing a trench coat, i get bashed because of my girlfriend, i get bashed because of my friends, i get bashed because of my left eye, i get bashed by people who are jealous and general bashers,in short, you get bashed for everything just ignore them

AN/how hypocritical of me as i attacked a guy two years older than me for calling me a pedo, despite the fact i'm fourteen, lol


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30 Jun 2010 - 17:3335430
I don't get discriminated against so much, at least not what I would call discriminating, but I definitely get some funny looks from people for apparently being the only person in London to go clubbing in gothic lolita clothes. Come one goth-loli people, I know you're out there!

It doesn't normally bother me at the time, but when I'm having an off day I find myself dwelling on it. I mean, I know people just don't understand it most of the time, but I always question whether I'm the one that's wrong. Why is that? I love the style of clothes and I love trying new things, even if they backfire sometimes, but why is it that when a bad day comes along I can't forget about it?

Some of the things I wonder about are if I'm too old dress that way (I'm 24 btw), if I'm too fat (female lol), or if I look out of place with my friends. (Although my friends never judge me, which is why they're such a great mixture of different people!)

One thing I try to remember is that I feel comfortable in that style. The days when I feel most self conscious and most abnormal are the days when I'm out wearing what I call 'normal people clothes'. You know - stuff that isn't fun, frilly, exaggerated or unique.

Remebering that helps keep me level. Also, knowing that my friends already know I'm a fruitcake and would never judge me on it is a big help! I know I'm very new here but I'm sure other veterans will agree that there's always someone to comfort you, even when you think you are more alone than you have ever been.

The best friends I have were found when I least expected it and most needed it.


01 Jul 2010 - 19:0535507
ive been quite lucky i think, in that ive never really had a problem with other people against my hobby?
it might be because i dont take myself to seriously, when people ask where im going (usually when im on a bus/train carrying props) my response is usually 'geek fest' most people will laugh and then be genuinly intrested and often relate to a cartoon they knew as a child, or a foriegn film. a potential employer asked me about it, and we had a conversation about tekken randomly XD

i think most people are pretty cool with 'obscure' hobbies and intrests as long as your not in your face with how you approach people, or try and force your views and likes to people.

but as others have said, if people are rude or aggresive towards you just back away from them calmly and think to yourself 'i bet theyve got a silly hobby ;P'

also, you gotta remember... no matter how old they are or what theyre into.... at one point in thier life they proboly loved pokemon


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02 Jul 2010 - 14:1635557
Quote kitty_yachiru:

also, you gotta remember... no matter how old they are or what theyre into.... at one point in thier life they proboly loved pokemon


Haha so true ^_^


02 Jul 2010 - 14:3035558
Quote Tranquilisis:
Quote kitty_yachiru:

also, you gotta remember... no matter how old they are or what theyre into.... at one point in thier life they proboly loved pokemon


Haha so true ^_^


someone likes mudkips


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02 Jul 2010 - 14:4535560
I havent had any bad turns with my cosplay. everything i seem to have feared turned out very well. but i am worried if some of the people around me found out that i did cosplay.
Not your freinds but your freinds freinds that you don't like bumping into.
the kind of gossipy people who will turn it against me, and so make others join in.
still they don't know, and my internet life is not open enough for them to easily find out.
but that fact in turn doesn't let my cosplay be as open as i would like it to be.
Still like i said up top... everything i seem to have feared turned out very well.


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02 Jul 2010 - 18:1035574
While on the bus, on my way to the train station, I was already wearing my Joey Wheeler cosplay for a convention, and my Duel Disk was clearly visible due to my backpack being too small ><
Som guy muttered "Grow up" while walking by, and I ignored him. Then some guy who sat behind me told the guy that "assholes who discriminate people should grow up or either get castrated in order to prevent them from reproducing."

WIN

No matter what you do, people will always have complaints.


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03 Jul 2010 - 13:4735615
Dyed my hair pink again yesterday - had it that way for all of an hour before a group of about 8 chav blokes wanted to pick a fight with me >


07 Aug 2010 - 19:4038220
Well I tend to get it used against me, I fell out with someone a while ago that knew a crossplayed, and he told loads of people and it went around school that I was a transvestite. I didn't really care TBH. I also get loads of chavs yelling stuff at me a my friends.


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07 Aug 2010 - 20:0138222
Yeah, my old group of friends didn't understand cosplay and why I wanted to spend my money on it, they'd tell me to shut up when I mentioned it now they just blank me and think I'm 'In love' with my new friend who cosplays with me... how sad some people are XDD

I'm over it though


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