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17 May 2010 - 19:5732164
The transportation of LARGE weapons props
Ok, so I have a halberd to take with me. It's about 6ft 2 without the foam blade on the end, so it's rather big. It does compact down, but it's still 52.5 inches long and will not fit in my suitcase as that's 32 inches long. I have a luggage trolley, but I want to try and avoid getting stopped while in transit. I am going to my friend's two days before expo and have to get across London, as well as transporting everything to the hotel the day before. I'm not worried about the props rules as Granny Gertrude has seen this prop already and it does compact down if/when necessary.

http://cosplayisland.co.uk/files/costumes/1437/9292/DSC04672.JPG
It's fully extended there but you can only see the blade.

Is there anything that can successfully COVER the blade enough to make it look less dubious. I mean the thing has a big axe head on one side.


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Last edited by SlimDefinition (17 May 2010 - 20:02)
17 May 2010 - 20:0032165
I've covered my past 2 swords (my Real Syaoran sword came up to the top of my chest) with several black bin bags and have had no problems. You could try that? ^^;


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17 May 2010 - 20:0532166
It's a thought, but it will show the big blade on it. I've put a picture in the first post.

With something that size though, it's also the tedious job of carrying it as well. I was thinking of using my sword carry case, having it compacted of course, and sticking out of the top of that with a bin bag over it. The blade end is quite heavy, even though it's only corrugated card, foam and papier mache (the paint and filler have added weight as well of course).


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17 May 2010 - 20:2632168
Many bin bags, wrapped over it and taped to each other to keep it covered and stop them slipping off.

I do this with all large props, no matter how odd the shape


17 May 2010 - 20:3032169
anyone had any problems with taking them on trains etc, such as not allowing you to travel with the prop?


17 May 2010 - 21:0732173
Quote Amy-Lou:
Many bin bags, wrapped over it and taped to each other to keep it covered and stop them slipping off.

I do this with all large props, no matter how odd the shape


Ever been stopped with them?

And thanks for the suggestion (same to Lady Bahamut).

Quote lastordersuk:
anyone had any problems with taking them on trains etc, such as not allowing you to travel with the prop?


No. And I hope I won't.
I think I'll try and keep the things next to me though.


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Last edited by SlimDefinition (17 May 2010 - 21:08)
17 May 2010 - 21:1932174
The tube is fine, I traveled with my seras victoria bazzuka (not recommended, I was stupid back then) in a ski case, and no one stopped me for having a large object.

Just be careful with the actual prop, the doors can close quickly so make sure it doesn't get caught in them and smash it.

-Tab


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17 May 2010 - 21:2832175
People MAY ask questions. I was carrying a scythe wrapped in bin bags and was stopped (showed them and explained it was cardboard etc.)

Same goes for carrying Kankurou...but then, that did look like a body wrapped in bandages...it was still in black bags though LMAO


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17 May 2010 - 21:3232180
I've never really brought anything too big. I've had two foam covered swords that fit in a specialised carry bag (well a large Shinai case).

A friend made Soul Eater from a paint roller poll (the height adjustable kind).
Making it smaller when needed.

I've always thought it would be a good idea to make large prop in a way so it can be assembled and disassembled when needed.


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Last edited by Ice-climber (18 May 2010 - 08:21)
18 May 2010 - 07:5732208
When I had a spear last May for Freya, the blade bit was in a box and the pole was covered in bin bags.

I didn't get stopped or anything (just a few dirty looks from passengers on the train on how much room they took up (basically a whole seat)) so if you cover it in bin bags it should be perfectly fine


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18 May 2010 - 08:1232209
i have traveled on train and tube with a prop sword before and was stupid and didnt cover it lol.
thankfully i didnt get stoped with it but i did get LOTS of funny looks tho, i got so fed up with them i made a sign to put on it that said 'yes its a FAKE sword, get over it'


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18 May 2010 - 10:0332214
Just letting people know, a 14 year old school boy was arrested outside the shop I work in by transport police for poking his friend with naruto plasic kunai. From the policemans view it could have been a knife from afar which is fair enough, but it got taken completely out of hand, they put the kunai in an evidence bag, questioned him for 2 1/2 hours and then put him in a cell for 8 hours. Sounds overly extreme for some plastic knives, me and the other girl I work with tried explaining what they were to the officers but they just didn't get it at all, in all it took 5 officers to sort it out. 5!!!!

I know it could have been a knife, but you would have thought a warning or something would be sufficient once they realised they were basically blunt toys? What I'm saying is basically, try not to muck around with your weapon props, particularly when on the tube/train/buses. I'd hate for someone to miss expo because a policeman wants to arrest you for play-fight with a friend with a foam axe or something D:

I thought I'd let people know that just in case, it'd be a shame for someone to have worked on a costume and paid for a ticket only not to get there because of a police problem!!

Also, my brother got stopped walking to the station with his Kaien Shiba bokken last October Expo as the top was poking out of a bag. They questioned him there asking what it was for (he explained the expo and Bleach to them, said he was vice-captain, the policeman said 'ahh like me then' X3 quite amusing! not all police officers are that nice!) and basically said that it has to be concealed in black plastic bin bags so no one knows exactly what it is and so it won't panic anyone into calling cops etc etc. Basically, if it's concealed/hidden, it should be fine, that's what mr police officer said I feel it sends out a wierd message to people but that's the rules apparently!

Sorry about the epic amount of text, I just wanted to let people know about the kunai poking, I don't want anyone missing expo over it X3


18 May 2010 - 18:4132235
If your carrying a bokken or shinai I really recommend using a specialised case. You can get these pretty easily from martial arts suppliers.


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18 May 2010 - 19:4832243
out of sight, out of mind.

good strong binliners, tape them around, bring more to rewrap.

if you're ever asked, NEVER say "it's a sword for xyz" or whatever, ALWAYS say it's a prop for theatrical use, and you'll be keeping it wrapped until you've reached your destination safely.

if they question you further, explain the event you're attending first, not what you'll be doing. if they press further, bore them with what cosplay is.


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18 May 2010 - 20:4032245
I always try and make sure my props can fold down. I made my Undertaker's scythe with that in mind. But I've always been fine carrying things in plastic bags/bin bags. I actually wrapped my pillow around the scythe too. Made it a bit heavy, but meant that it balanced better (heavy end on the floor, obviously).

If you're not carrying a backpack see if you can work out a way to sling it across your back too. Rope would do, if you tie it around after you've put the bags on. Just means that there's one more hand for carrying other things.

Also, try not to feel self conscious with it. If you look shifty because you're feeling a bit nervous, you're more likely to stand out and be asked about it. Just try and act natural. XD


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18 May 2010 - 20:4032247
Quote xaerael:
ALWAYS say it's a prop for theatrical use,


This is so useful. When I said that my scythe was for theatrical purposes they were more than happy to let me go after making sure it did not have a metal blade LOL


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20 May 2010 - 09:5532353
Quote sjbonnar:
Quote xaerael:
ALWAYS say it's a prop for theatrical use,


This is so useful. When I said that my scythe was for theatrical purposes they were more than happy to let me go after making sure it did not have a metal blade LOL


I agree. This is well worth remembering.

I did take my (very real) medevieal six feet long bow to Collectormaina 5 (when it was still allowed to take anything that was 6 feet) I had it in its travel bag. No one really asked questions. One train guy did. Not because of safty more out of curiousity. I mentioned that it was a theatre prop long bow. He was fine with that.

Thankfully, long bows are quite safe. Its the arrows that you have to worry about. Hence why I'm making replacements for my Legolas ones as they were real (all taped together with rubber caps).

Of course with all the weapons/props rules for cons these days I might have to change the bow too.


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Last edited by Sephirayne (20 May 2010 - 09:55)
20 May 2010 - 11:1832358
I'm still figureing out how to get my Minigun and backpack down to London. Not really worried to much about being stopped as it will be so wrapped up in bubble wrap it will be impossible to tell what it is. Its just the logistical problem of getting it down there. Gun itself is nearly 2m long and the box is over 1m wide. Hmmmmm


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