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26 Apr 2010 - 01:0530589
[Advisory] Keeping cool at conventions.
I've seen a lot of people asking about this here and there recently, so i'm giving up my uber-secrets on how i manage to survive in the most heat-unfriendly of costumes...

there's three main types of heat that costumers are likely to encounter, general body heat (which includes energy burn, environmental temperature, etc), friction heat (which includes "costume rub", "sweat rash", etc), and dehydration (which is obvious).

without going into things like cool vests (which are great, but not always practical), or adding electronics like fans, here's 4 simple things anyone can do to make an event a thousand times more comfortable.

1) drink isotonics. nothing else. (powerade/gatorade/lucozade sport). water only partially hydrates you because it lacks essential minerals, you'll simply sweat out 80% of any non isotonic you drink, while isotonic is almost fully absorbed in the bloodstream. after expo, make sure you drink normally.

you can also buy isotonics in powder form, making it easier to carry around and guarantee an onhand supply as long as you have access to fresh water!

i'll also play the anti-water card in regards to the scientific fact that just drinking water to cool down can actually cause an electrolyte imbalance and kill you. you shouldn't drink more than 1.2 litres of water a day. isotonics, on the other hand, have a concentration of salt and sugar similar to blood, and will restore vital electrolytes, carbohydrates, etc, so you can drink a reasonable ammount more, as long as you're responsible afterwards and drink regular drinks (your bladder will thank you). death is NOT likely (very rare infact), but it does demonstrate how water is inefficient as a cooling aid, and can cause more problems than it can cure.

2) shower thoroughly before wearing, talc yourself a lot. (johnson's baby power is best due to how fine it is) this reduces the friction between you and the costume, which normally accounts for 50% of "heat". a good hot shower also clears pores and removes any excess grease which can cause the body to think it's hotter than it actually is and "panic sweat".

3) use mitchum deodorant. this stuff plain stops you sweating. less sweat, less friction heat. simple. there's a few other sweat blocking deo's, most are either ineffective, very expensive, or have an obscene allergy rate.

4) take breathers in cool, open places. there's a few well shaded spots around most cons.

additional stuff (i'll edit this together properly)

Magicool. this is a self refrigerated fine water spray. might not work well if you're in heavy makeup, but for "big costume" wearers who are under heaps of armour/foam/fur/etc, this stuff has obvious benefits.


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Last edited by xaerael (30 Apr 2010 - 10:40)
26 Apr 2010 - 01:1830590
Quote xaerael:
1) drink isotonics. nothing else. (powerade/gatorade/lucozade sport). water only partially hydrates you because it lacks essential minerals, you'll simply sweat out 80% of any non isotonic you drink, while isotonic is almost fully absorbed in the bloodstream. after expo, make sure you drink normally.
Hear hear! That's amazing advice. I swear by mitchum haha.

Also on the subject of isotonic drinks, I usually bring it in powder form to conventions so you can mix up your own in a water bottle so it's cheaper I think! I don't know if it's helpful to add!


26 Apr 2010 - 12:5830597
I vote this should be put in the articles section for easy reference.

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26 Apr 2010 - 13:2630599
Quote miiol:
Quote xaerael:
1) drink isotonics. nothing else. (powerade/gatorade/lucozade sport). water only partially hydrates you because it lacks essential minerals, you'll simply sweat out 80% of any non isotonic you drink, while isotonic is almost fully absorbed in the bloodstream. after expo, make sure you drink normally.
Hear hear! That's amazing advice. I swear by mitchum haha.

Also on the subject of isotonic drinks, I usually bring it in powder form to conventions so you can mix up your own in a water bottle so it's cheaper I think! I don't know if it's helpful to add!


Where do you get the powder form from? And how much are you looking at for it?


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27 Apr 2010 - 19:2630718
Quote NixieThePixie:
Where do you get the powder form from? And how much are you looking at for it?

From any health shop/vitimin shops, things like Holland and Barrets, GnG and so on as well. My dad is a health nut so we have lots of types haha.

It's about £5 for 500g so it'll last you a long time! If you think buying 5 individual drinks will cost you a fiver too.

You can also get smaller sachets around too. My friend got me a load of pocari sweat sachets for a quid each or something and you can get like 3 or 4 drinks out of them. Hope it helps.


27 Apr 2010 - 20:1830723
Quote miiol:
Quote NixieThePixie:
Where do you get the powder form from? And how much are you looking at for it?

From any health shop/vitimin shops, things like Holland and Barrets, GnG and so on as well. My dad is a health nut so we have lots of types haha.

It's about £5 for 500g so it'll last you a long time! If you think buying 5 individual drinks will cost you a fiver too.

You can also get smaller sachets around too. My friend got me a load of pocari sweat sachets for a quid each or something and you can get like 3 or 4 drinks out of them. Hope it helps.


Cha it does. I dehydrate quickly so spent a lot on drinks last May. I'mma gonna see if my friend will go halves with me ;p


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27 Apr 2010 - 20:4730728
Quote miiol:
Quote NixieThePixie:
Where do you get the powder form from? And how much are you looking at for it?

From any health shop/vitimin shops, things like Holland and Barrets, GnG and so on as well. My dad is a health nut so we have lots of types haha.

It's about £5 for 500g so it'll last you a long time! If you think buying 5 individual drinks will cost you a fiver too.

You can also get smaller sachets around too. My friend got me a load of pocari sweat sachets for a quid each or something and you can get like 3 or 4 drinks out of them. Hope it helps.


that's ultra useful to know. adding to list!

out of curiousity, what's the expected litre production from 500g's? also, what's the taste like?


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Last edited by xaerael (27 Apr 2010 - 20:52)
27 Apr 2010 - 21:1730732
Hmm...I might have to try that stuff Xae, I had to spend so much on drinks in oct last year and May its stupid.

I think I'll just buy that powered stuff and brings loads of water with me.

Thanks for the info!


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27 Apr 2010 - 22:1130745
Quote KhaosKreator:
I vote this should be put in the articles section for easy reference.

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I agree with this as I think it's incredibly useful! If you wanted to expand it and include some of the other cooling methods (computer fans is what I'm planning on using when I finish Totoro LOL) that'd make it even better! Like, the definitive guide to keeping cool!

If you'd like to submit it as an article, please email with your tutorial. If it includes images, we ask that you zip them up and attach them along with the tutorial, with clear indication of where the photos should go within the text.


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Last edited by sjbonnar (27 Apr 2010 - 22:17)
27 Apr 2010 - 22:4230753
Quote NixieThePixie:
Cha it does. I dehydrate quickly so spent a lot on drinks last May. I'mma gonna see if my friend will go halves with me ;p


Lucozade Sport is available as tablets too! Some major supermarkets sell it. So if mixing the powder is too annoying there's an alternative. But of course it means you gotta drink lots of water too.

Just remember, Lucozade Sport is NOT the same thing as Lucozade Energy (ie the regular stuff). Both give you energy, but the sports version gives you electrolytes which you lose through sweating. The regular version isn't nearly as useful.


27 Apr 2010 - 22:5930755
Wow! I'd never thought of drinking isotonics instead of water before! This is amazing advice. I agree with khaos and Sean~


27 Apr 2010 - 23:3730758
Quote Pez:
Quote NixieThePixie:
Cha it does. I dehydrate quickly so spent a lot on drinks last May. I'mma gonna see if my friend will go halves with me ;p


Lucozade Sport is available as tablets too! Some major supermarkets sell it. So if mixing the powder is too annoying there's an alternative. But of course it means you gotta drink lots of water too.

Just remember, Lucozade Sport is NOT the same thing as Lucozade Energy (ie the regular stuff). Both give you energy, but the sports version gives you electrolytes which you lose through sweating. The regular version isn't nearly as useful.


lucozade sport is my one of choice. nice refreshing taste and a decent bottle. gatorade is a close second. powerade looks chemically, so i'm put off from the start. i didn't know they did it as tablets though, i'm gonna have to look into that.

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i'll spruce this up, find some appropriate piccies, add "technical" cooling options and submit as an article... just possibly not before expo


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27 Apr 2010 - 23:4630759
Oooh wow! This is new to me!

I do like drinking water though, but Lucazade is lush as well! I haven't had it in years though, I think Expo is a good chance to drink some again as an excuse to keep myself nice and cool

Thanks for the advice =)


28 Apr 2010 - 00:1930763
I have no scientificy backup for it but I tend to bring a can of Magicool (http://www.magicool.uk.com) for people in big heavy costumes, the effect isn't magical and I wouldn't recommend replacing any of the above advice with just this but it certainly seems to help give a bit of instant relief when it's needed

They sell it in Boots mostly


28 Apr 2010 - 00:2630765
how did i even forget that one....

added


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28 Apr 2010 - 10:0930783
Also, if you are wearing heavy make-up, a setting powder and decent primer will work wonders (yes, even with face/body paints). That's not so much to do with cooling, but it will stop you from having to keep applying make-up as it won't sweat off, which I know makes me feel a lot more comfortable in heat.
Urban Decay are pretty good for these things - I used to swear by LimeCrime but unfortunately they no longer sell their primers etc.
Don't know if that's useful to anyone.


28 Apr 2010 - 10:4830784
I find powerade is good for fussy drinkers. Matt hates lucazade, but will drink the blue powerade. I think it's because it tastes like blue.

-Tab


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28 Apr 2010 - 13:4230790
Quote KhaosKreator:
I find powerade is good for fussy drinkers. Matt hates lucazade, but will drink the blue powerade. I think it's because it tastes like blue.

-Tab


LMAO quote for truth

i prefer red tho, has more of a kick XD


28 Apr 2010 - 14:0330791
Quote KhaosKreator:
I find powerade is good for fussy drinkers. Matt hates lucazade, but will drink the blue powerade. I think it's because it tastes like blue.

-Tab


tastes like blue maybe, but also looks like screenwash fluid.


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28 Apr 2010 - 21:5830835
Is there anymore advice for keeping cool? I already do three of the four for normal life because of hyperhydrosis :S.


29 Apr 2010 - 00:1130850
Does powdered isotonic stuff taste of anything? I can't stand lucozade or any similar drinks, the taste makes me gag. xD


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29 Apr 2010 - 00:5730857
Quote Member-XI:
Does powdered isotonic stuff taste of anything? I can't stand lucozade or any similar drinks, the taste makes me gag. xD


orange gatorade just tastes like weakish orange juice. gatorade's generally pretty bland in flavor, while lucozade and powerade are pretty strong.


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29 Apr 2010 - 17:5330884
Quote nert:
I have no scientificy backup for it but I tend to bring a can of Magicool (http://www.magicool.uk.com) for people in big heavy costumes, the effect isn't magical and I wouldn't recommend replacing any of the above advice with just this but it certainly seems to help give a bit of instant relief when it's needed

They sell it in Boots mostly


Nert you lovely creature! Magicool is one of the most fantastic things I've ever encountered!


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29 Apr 2010 - 17:5330885
Quote xaerael:

i'll spruce this up, find some appropriate piccies, add "technical" cooling options and submit as an article... just possibly not before expo


That sounds awesome! No rush ^_^


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29 Apr 2010 - 22:0130910
This is all really great advice.

I do drink the sport drinks as I'm not too fond of the taste of water plus it dosen't rehydrate you.

I do have little hidden vent holes in some of my more heavy costumes. For Sephiroth, I put a vent in the back of the jacket. Not only will my wing go though when I make it but it keeps me nice and cool.

I also love rehydration sprays from boots and Bodyshop. I have the stawberry one.


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