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08 Apr 2010 - 23:5229464
Plastazote?
Yeah, Ive heard its good for like, armor and stuff, and was just wondering if someone could tell me where to get it from. Alot of places Im looking at online, done make much sense to me, so Id rather get it from somewhere you guys already have dealings with..


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Asha Ketchum.
09 Apr 2010 - 00:0129465
http://www.flints.co.uk/acatalog/Plastazote.html

Thats the site Xae recomended me too

if you need any help, hes the man to ask on it, alternatively you can ask Khaoskreator too as he's also the man to talk too


09 Apr 2010 - 00:0829466
Coolio, I shall has a look


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Asha Ketchum.
09 Apr 2010 - 10:4029473
yes, flints is the place to go.

you'll need either impact adhesive, or a high temp hot glue gun to stick it together, latex to "paint" it and isoflex to seal it.


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09 Apr 2010 - 11:3529474
Glue Gun I has, And I'll get everything else THANK YOO

Also, Isoflex, as in like, stuff for roofs yeah?


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Last edited by Chikinpoo (09 Apr 2010 - 11:38)
09 Apr 2010 - 13:3829477
You want the clear one which is roofing primer. I've found that B&Q sell it, but only the large stores, so it's worth looking for it online.

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09 Apr 2010 - 14:5129482
^ this.

it's also worth noting that it's easier to form shapes if you glue with impact, but easier to quick glue with hot glue.


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Last edited by xaerael (09 Apr 2010 - 14:52)
09 Apr 2010 - 20:1429523
okeydoke. Well, i live pretty close to a B&Q and a Homebase, so I will have a mooch in there for it


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Asha Ketchum.
13 May 2010 - 09:1531828
Hi! I'm planning to try out this method as well... stupid question but where can I get latex, and are there different kinds? I only type I've ever used is stuff for theatrical makeup.

I've got some EVA (marketed as evazote and apparently similar to plastazote as described here), I guess the same coating method would work...?

Also, what's the best way to clean a brush that's got latex and/or isoflex on it?



Last edited by Pez (13 May 2010 - 10:24)
13 May 2010 - 10:3731837
Quote Pez:
Hi! I'm planning to try out this method as well... stupid question but where can I get latex, and are there different kinds? I only type I've ever used is stuff for theatrical makeup.

I've got some EVA (marketed as evazote and apparently similar to plastazote as described here), I guess the same coating method would work...?

Also, what's the best way to clean a brush that's got latex and/or isoflex on it?


Liquid latex is the kind you're after. It can be used for theatrical makeup, so it's probably the exact same type that you've already used.

You can buy big lots of it from http://www.tomps.com/ but the site seems down today. Look in the casting supplies section as that's another use for the stuff.

Latex can be painted over most things, but somethings it doesn't stick to as well. I recommend giving things a test, but I don't see any issues there. You may find EVA is heavier than plastazote judging on the information there.

You can't clean latex and isoflex brushes as both products ruin them. Latex it is possible to save if you keep them clean when you're painting with them by washing them periodically, but I find natural fibre brushes get eaten by latex. Buy lots of cheap brushes for throwing away after you're done.

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13 May 2010 - 11:4131840
Quote KhaosKreator:
Liquid latex is the kind you're after. It can be used for theatrical makeup, so it's probably the exact same type that you've already used.

You can buy big lots of it from http://www.tomps.com/ but the site seems down today. Look in the casting supplies section as that's another use for the stuff.

Latex can be painted over most things, but somethings it doesn't stick to as well. I recommend giving things a test, but I don't see any issues there. You may find EVA is heavier than plastazote judging on the information there.

You can't clean latex and isoflex brushes as both products ruin them. Latex it is possible to save if you keep them clean when you're painting with them by washing them periodically, but I find natural fibre brushes get eaten by latex. Buy lots of cheap brushes for throwing away after you're done.

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Thanks for all the info - the site is still down but I'll check again tomorrow. I'm hoping that buying lots means it'll be cheaper... the theatrical stuff seemed rather overpriced for the small bottles they tend to come in.

*makes note about brushes* Will isoflex make the end product glossy or matt?


13 May 2010 - 12:0931841
it's naturally glossy, but you can rub talc into it when it's dry to degloss.


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13 May 2010 - 14:1931848
It's also rather sticky if you don't talc it. It's a roofing primer which means it's there to make a sticky layer for the actual roofing stuff to stick to. However it also seals the under layer in which is what we're after.

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13 May 2010 - 22:0331883
Ahhhhh, okay! Thanks for the tip!


14 May 2010 - 00:0831887
if you want it glossy, talc it then Mr Sheen it.


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14 May 2010 - 20:1431948
Just to add to this, I have found that Bostic All Purpose will stick plastazote. It takes a few minutes to hold but seems to work well and has a strong bond.

In addition, while not as good as isoflex, a couple of layers of PVA glue seems to work quite well for sealing it ready for painting. This isn't as toxic as isoflex and while it isn't as good I have found it works well as an alternative.

I should also point out that plastazote can be heat molded. If you put sheets in an oven at around 120-140 degrees C for a few minutes it becomes soft and flexible. I did this for a shoulder piece recently. Just heated it and pushed it around the desired shape and held it there. After a few minutes it retains the shape.


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Last edited by theKillingDoll (14 May 2010 - 20:26)
15 May 2010 - 00:1431956
Quote theKillingDoll:

In addition, while not as good as isoflex, a couple of layers of PVA glue seems to work quite well for sealing it ready for painting. This isn't as toxic as isoflex and while it isn't as good I have found it works well as an alternative.


No no no, Isoflex comes after you paint it the colour you want XD. It's your final sealant coat, not the base layer to get it prepped for painting.

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15 May 2010 - 11:0831960
Quote KhaosKreator:
No no no, Isoflex comes after you paint it the colour you want XD. It's your final sealant coat, not the base layer to get it prepped for painting.

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Okay, thanks for correcting that. That's another bit of costuming knowledge gained.

So how do you remove that foam texture when painting platazote or does the isoflex do this job afterwards?


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Last edited by theKillingDoll (15 May 2010 - 11:20)
15 May 2010 - 12:3531964
That's what the layers of latex is for. It creates a smooth surface and one in the correct base colour (in my case normally always black) for you to then paint on.

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