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10 Mar 2008 - 13:081955
Why do 'Hardcore' Gundam fans dislike Wing?
Title says it all.

I guess I'm biased as it was the first Gundam I saw. But I've watched a quite a few Gundam series now, and I'm unsure why the hard core fans don't like it?

I can understand why SEED is disliked...but either way, can someone enlighten me?


10 Mar 2008 - 13:231956
well as hardcore fan i would say there is no other gundam series than WING ^ ^ ive never noticed any particular dislike of a series generally theres people who like mechs and people who dont guess i fall into the strange catergory of Liking both types of anime but for a generic awnser ille go with jealousy after all prince of tennis has the same paper thin plot yet none of the WING cool oh dear i might of started a war


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10 Mar 2008 - 14:051957
I think because it was the first gundam to be written specifically for the female audience. And given how many female fans it has, it did the job well. Unfortuntely this gives it quite a different flavour to the others, which didn't go down so well with the traditional fans.

Or so I've heard. I've only seen Wing and G-gundam.


10 Mar 2008 - 14:371958
True, it does have some Yaoi elements. But they're not overly pronounced. Like a few instances over the course of the whole series.

Also, how can they not like Treize Khushrenada? He is one of the most awesome Gundam character ever, he even beats Ramba Rol and his 'This is no Zaku boy, no Zaku!' quote.


10 Mar 2008 - 17:241962
I've only seen Gundam 00 so.. no help here D:


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10 Mar 2008 - 17:401966
Hate wing and you'll be banned from the forums.


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10 Mar 2008 - 18:411967
Ah Wing is my ultimate favourite Gundam!! Then again I've only seen X, Wing, SEED and 00 [I should probably go watch SEED Destiny and G-Gundam at some point... but I'm busy going through 00 haha xD]... but out of all of them Wing is definately my favourite xP Then again I may be biased as well seeing as it was what started my whole Gundam obsession haha xD


10 Mar 2008 - 19:061968
Quote White Leviathan:
Hate wing and you'll be banned from the forums.


I'd like to see you try banning me. Wing was one of the first few Gundam I saw but I am not a fan. I liked it at first but story is always key for me and the Wing story is a mess of confused political babble seemingly without any real theme or point to help it all hang together. The characters seem written to be cool, mysterious and cute rather than real people driven by real goals. The battles are repitive and with no understandable character goals I didn't care who won. One thing I will give the show, the Wing Zero Custom from the OVA looks cool. *rant over*

My favourtie Gundam shows are 0080, 0083, Zeta and the hilarious G-Gundam. I did enjoy Seed but have been avoiding 00 due to people comparing it to Wing.

Hope that answers the original question. ^_^


10 Mar 2008 - 22:561972
I've only seen Wing. And I love that.

Haven't seen any of the other series though.

But Endless Waltz is one of my favourite movies~


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11 Mar 2008 - 00:161975
Quote PerrinAshcroft:
Quote White Leviathan:
Hate wing and you'll be banned from the forums.


I'd like to see you try banning me. Wing was one of the first few Gundam I saw but I am not a fan. I liked it at first but story is always key for me and the Wing story is a mess of confused political babble seemingly without any real theme or point to help it all hang together. The characters seem written to be cool, mysterious and cute rather than real people driven by real goals. The battles are repitive and with no understandable character goals I didn't care who won. One thing I will give the show, the Wing Zero Custom from the OVA looks cool. *rant over*

My favourtie Gundam shows are 0080, 0083, Zeta and the hilarious G-Gundam. I did enjoy Seed but have been avoiding 00 due to people comparing it to Wing.

Hope that answers the original question. ^_^


Story?.... No it's Gundam, you replace the word plot with fighting, don't look at this for any depth lol. Massive fights with massive robots.

As for cool well Heavyarms custom and Wing Zero all the way. They look too cool, wings + mech = epic


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11 Mar 2008 - 10:021978
Quote PerrinAshcroft:

I liked it at first but story is always key for me and the Wing story is a mess of confused political babble seemingly without any real theme or point to help it all hang together. The characters seem written to be cool, mysterious and cute rather than real people driven by real goals. The battles are repitive and with no understandable character goals I didn't care who won. One thing I will give the show, the Wing Zero Custom from the OVA looks cool. *rant over*


I love Wing, but I have to agree with Perrin D: (ugh I hate doing that!) the plotline and the politics are ridiculous. I also don't like a lot of the Gundams in the series as they're overcomplicated for that 'oooooh pretty' factor. Heavyarms <3 though.

However, I'm incredibly easy to please. Throw in a few explosions and some big guns and I'm amused to no end. I also really like most of the characters (*coughQuatrecough*, Trowa and Lady Une, rabuuuu)


11 Mar 2008 - 10:311979
Wing is the only one i ever seen bits of as it was before DBZ on cartoon network

I have to say although the mechs look cool it was so bad it put me off watching or going out of my way to watch anything that looks sounds or smells like Gundam.

sorry guys


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11 Mar 2008 - 12:011982
The story in Wing isn't bad. Basic message is, to have peace and to stop war, one must first change the hearts of the people. So they have a huuuuuuuge space battle to try and not only disgust the populace, but to destroy a good number of the weapons used in war.

It probably would have made a bit more sense if the main writer hadn't left half way through. Endless Waltz sort of ties up some of the loose ends, and the Episode Zero manga gives more of a background as well.

Plus, you know, huuuuuge space battle yo. And Treize in Tallgeese 2. Genius.


11 Mar 2008 - 14:271984
Deathscythe Hell. Best gundam in Wing adn you'll never change my mind


11 Mar 2008 - 16:421985
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Deathscythe Hell. Best gundam in Wing adn you'll never change my mind


I'm afraid I'm gonna have to agree x3 Go big scythes and big wings! 8D [Also you gotta love the pilot x3 though that's just me xD]


11 Mar 2008 - 18:191986
I actually think a fusion between Heavyarms custom and wing zero.

Heavyarms Zero FTW!


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11 Mar 2008 - 18:201987
Shiney Happy Shinigami for the win


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11 Mar 2008 - 19:291990
Heavyarms Zero?! Trowa...with Zero system...even more weapons...and probably beam sabres...

Best. Gundam. Ever.


17 Mar 2008 - 14:052044
Wing?
... best ever, ever ever... EVA XD

Weapons... Beam Weapons... Child Terroists... (Heartbreaking storylines) and characters to love... and characters you want to kill with you own two hands... *coughRelenaDorlian/Peacecraftcough*

Lets not forget the totally in depth Political situation, the continued political narration and the deep and 3D characters...

No real canon pairings...

its all good ^^

Oo; Oh theres mecha to lol XD (Deathscythe Hell custom FTW!)



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17 Mar 2008 - 15:442048
I've not actually posted on the forums before, I think, but I saw this thread on the front page and had to comment. XD I've only seen Wing, but it's my favourite anime EVER. <333 Everything about it is love!


25 Mar 2008 - 02:232110
Gundam Wing showed for the first time in the UK on my 10th birthday (15th Jan 2000)... Best present evar xD

Seriously though, I love it. The art is fantastic, the characters are lovable (except Relena) and the fighting is too cool!
Plus the nicest Gundam designs... Sorry guys I love Wing Zero... Any Gundam that can make Quatre go nuts is QUALITY! xD

Only bad thing about it is I wish I could cosplay them more!


30 Apr 2008 - 20:462608
i wouldnt call my self a "hardcore" fan but i do have to say i hate gundam wing, i disliked the characters (all of them) i didnt like the gundam designs, and the story was so porrly told in my opintion. but thats just me if you like it thats ok i just dont understand why.

gundam wing was the first gundam i saw and it put me off all gundam for about 4 years till i watched gundam seed (which i fell in love with), i think the reason people dont like gundam seed is because its just a re-telling of the 1979 gundam pritty much spot on.

i loved G-Gundam though very funny.


01 May 2008 - 23:112623
I think Gundam Wing is one of those series people do tend to love or hate. And I can see a lot of fans who are really into the mech battles being slightly put off by the fact the series is somewhat...shallow? It seemed to me like it was a very 'accessible' series if ya get what I mean. And of course with glorious yaoifest overtones.


01 May 2008 - 23:162624
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