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02 Oct 2009 - 18:1020416
Crossplay Help
Im cosplaying Fire Fist Ace from one
piece, and his character usually
wears no t-shirt.

Lots of people are suggesting I buy
a skin coloured t-shirt but Im thinking
of just buying an ordinary top and cutting
it up a bit to look manly. I was going to wear skin coloured bandages
but im binding with duck tape so thats really
out of the window xD

any suggestions?

UPDATE - After many comments I thought I'd better add this in, when I say im binding with duck tape I mean I am taping over a top >____<, I am aware that binding without a shirt is an Extremley stupid idea.



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Last edited by Black-Cat-1 (02 Oct 2009 - 20:39)
02 Oct 2009 - 19:2320420
If I can recall properly didn't he wear some kind of poncho on one of the alabasta episodes.


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02 Oct 2009 - 19:4420422
By binding with duct tape you mean over a vest top, right? Right?

For godssakes, DO NOT bind with duct tape directly onto your skin, you will lose most of it. The skin around your breasts is particularly delicate and easily damaged. The only way to get the glue off is to disolve it with like surgical spirits or turps or someting, which is not good; have you not heard the horror stories about duct tape binding?

For open shirt binding use sports tape. Read Odangochan's binding tutorial: http://cosplayisland.co.uk/tutorials/crossplayfm

Build a muscle suit or get a flestone shirt and paint or airbrush on the muscles: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/WoggyWooWoo/1201817518277.jpg. But just don't duct tape bind onto your skin.

There's a whole thread tackling your issue here: http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=152003


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02 Oct 2009 - 20:1420424
Quote Jojo_nexuz:
If I can recall properly didn't he wear some kind of poncho on one of the alabasta episodes.


Yes Indeed
but I think I've left it a bit late till expo, i could order it but then again it might not arrive in time, and i dont really have the skill to make it.


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02 Oct 2009 - 20:2020425
I think you should wear a shirt like luffys, I mean they are brothers so I'm sure you could get away with it!

And I dont think the skin coloured shirt or bandages would work. You would look a bit silly.

I hope you take my idea into consideration my friend : )
I dont fancy walking round with you if your half naked XD


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02 Oct 2009 - 20:3420428
Binding with ridgid materials like ducttape or bandages destroys the tissue in the breasts, meaning they will start to sag a lot earlier than they're supposed to.

-Tab


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02 Oct 2009 - 20:3720429
Quote Pudding:
By binding with duct tape you mean over a vest top, right? Right?

For godssakes, DO NOT bind with duct tape directly onto your skin, you will lose most of it. The skin around your breasts is particularly delicate and easily damaged. The only way to get the glue off is to disolve it with like surgical spirits or turps or someting, which is not good; have you not heard the horror stories about duct tape binding?

For open shirt binding use sports tape. Read Odangochan's binding tutorial: http://cosplayisland.co.uk/tutorials/crossplayfm

Build a muscle suit or get a flestone shirt and paint or airbrush on the muscles: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/WoggyWooWoo/1201817518277.jpg. But just don't duct tape bind onto your skin.

There's a whole thread tackling your issue here: http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=152003


Ok first things first, dont panic I am not duck taping my skin. Im not that stupid XD, but thank you for the links.

Unfortunatly airbrushing is out of the question as im not really good at art or making things ;__;


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06 Oct 2009 - 13:2520571
Good, good. I figured that the most likely scenario was over a vest, but I had to check just in case; you have no iea how many girls have actually duct tape bound straight to their skin (I've actually met a couple)... ^^;

Well, you can paint it on, doesn't have to be airbrushed. Or get someone to do it for you (you wear it whilst they paint it). Or just wear the fleshtone top without muscle structure.

Also, a poncho would not be hard to make. It's literally a circle of fabric with a hole for your head to go through.


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06 Oct 2009 - 16:3520575
get some skin toned clothes dye or could possibly use some sort of serpia ink and dye a sports compression top... or similar or i guess you could just use a tee but a compression top is like skin tight and is really stretchy

you can find dyes from fabric shoppes and possibly from arts and crafts store the inks im not sure


06 Oct 2009 - 16:5420577
Cat face my dear friend. Just make the poncho and use strechy bandages and a crop top. Tape is seriously restricting :/ I meen bandages are irritating enough!you can always use medical tape to keep them in place, as thats okay to go on skin, but not to do all your binding :S


06 Oct 2009 - 17:4220579
Thankies
Pudding - Really? O__O -cringes- ahh I can imagine the pain now, you'd think most people would think these things through first XD
Poncho? Hmmm sounds like a good idea, i never thought of tht Im definatly trying that out.

Kirato - thankies ^__^ this sounds like the best idea I have been suggested so far

Neko-Chan ahh neko chan my friend Yh thats on the maybes, i was thinking of using bandages but Im not really keen on the idea, last time I tried using them It Looked like i hadnt binded at all XD


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06 Oct 2009 - 21:3520586
Quote DeathGodsEatApples:
Pudding - Really? O__O -cringes- ahh I can imagine the pain now, you'd think most people would think these things through first XD
Poncho? Hmmm sounds like a good idea, i never thought of tht Im definatly trying that out.

Kirato - thankies ^__^ this sounds like the best idea I have been suggested so far

Neko-Chan ahh neko chan my friend Yh thats on the maybes, i was thinking of using bandages but Im not really keen on the idea, last time I tried using them It Looked like i hadnt binded at all XD


RIGHT! We need to go shopping ;D you do need ATLEAST 3 sets though. Thats how many i used to use, but im bumping it to 4 for expo. ^^


07 Oct 2009 - 16:0520605
Quote Neko-Chan:
RIGHT! We need to go shopping ;D you do need ATLEAST 3 sets though. Thats how many i used to use, but im bumping it to 4 for expo. ^^


Hell Yh : sounds gd to me, The only time im free in next weekend I think,

big thankies to everyone for all their help


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07 Oct 2009 - 18:2220617
In my opinon, bandages are a pain.
Yes they are easy to take off, and are more comfortable but they slip, and are a nuisance to put on.

If you want to use duck tape and a top, do it!
Dont be put off by people because they think its a dumb idea. if you want to, do it!


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07 Oct 2009 - 21:0820629
Quote HitachiinTwin01:
In my opinon, bandages are a pain.
Yes they are easy to take off, and are more comfortable but they slip, and are a nuisance to put on.

If you want to use duck tape and a top, do it!
Dont be put off by people because they think its a dumb idea. if you want to, do it!


There's a difference between thinking and knowing something is bad. This is one of those cases.

If people want permanent misshapen saggy chests due to overyly constricting them via ducttape, then it is up to them. I just feel it's my duty as a human being to warn people when they're about to harm themselves.

I belong to many trans communities and I've seen the damage binding can do if not with an actual binder. Fried eggs on a board have nothing on some of these guys.

Or you know, there's always broken ribs. Those hurt.

It's up to you to weigh the options out:

Binder- £30, comfort, no lasting damage, reuseable.

Ducttape- cheap as ass, uncomfortable, damaged breast tissue, possible requirement for boob job in future. Possible broken ribs that ruin the entire event and several weeks afterwards.

So yeah, if you want to, do it! I'm just giving you advice for no reason, it's not like I want to you know, prevent others from harming themselves or anything.

-Tab


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07 Oct 2009 - 22:3720632
Quote KhaosKreator:
Quote HitachiinTwin01:
In my opinon, bandages are a pain.
Yes they are easy to take off, and are more comfortable but they slip, and are a nuisance to put on.

If you want to use duck tape and a top, do it!
Dont be put off by people because they think its a dumb idea. if you want to, do it!


There's a difference between thinking and knowing something is bad. This is one of those cases.

If people want permanent misshapen saggy chests due to overyly constricting them via ducttape, then it is up to them. I just feel it's my duty as a human being to warn people when they're about to harm themselves.

I belong to many trans communities and I've seen the damage binding can do if not with an actual binder. Fried eggs on a board have nothing on some of these guys.

Or you know, there's always broken ribs. Those hurt.

It's up to you to weigh the options out:

Binder- £30, comfort, no lasting damage, reuseable.

Ducttape- cheap as ass, uncomfortable, damaged breast tissue, possible requirement for boob job in future. Possible broken ribs that ruin the entire event and several weeks afterwards.

So yeah, if you want to, do it! I'm just giving you advice for no reason, it's not like I want to you know, prevent others from harming themselves or anything.

-Tab



Proper binders only cost £30?! Gezz, ive been looking for one for a while, but the ones ive seen have been £45 at lowest.
I fail at searching for these things...
What about using strech bandages though? As they're what i normaly use although now you've said duc tape can cause that much dammage im a tad worried now...


07 Oct 2009 - 23:0420634
Stetch bandages actually stretch with you chest which means they compress you throughout the day, getting tighter and harder to breathe in.

They also slip about meaning what starts out as flat binding becomes lumpy as it gathers into one place, leaving other parts exposed. Not flattering, and there is a possibility of them actually slipping down and pretty much you going without boob support. Not fun.

I have this T-kingdom binder:

http://www.t-kingdom.com/shopping/english/page1480_english.shtml

I've just checked prices and with shipping that one is £35. When I bought mine though it was £30 due to the exchange rate. If you're a cosplayer though I'm sure there might be a friend who will share shipping costs with you if they want one too.


I'm getting really tempted to buy a tonne of these in bulk and sell them at expo. A lot of the issue with people buying binders seems to be not the expense, but the fact a lot of cosplayers can't buy things online. If that generates any interest I'd look at doing that May expo.

Tab


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08 Oct 2009 - 16:1120664
Quote KhaosKreator:
Quote HitachiinTwin01:
In my opinon, bandages are a pain.
Yes they are easy to take off, and are more comfortable but they slip, and are a nuisance to put on.

If you want to use duck tape and a top, do it!
Dont be put off by people because they think its a dumb idea. if you want to, do it!


There's a difference between thinking and knowing something is bad. This is one of those cases.

If people want permanent misshapen saggy chests due to overyly constricting them via ducttape, then it is up to them. I just feel it's my duty as a human being to warn people when they're about to harm themselves.

I belong to many trans communities and I've seen the damage binding can do if not with an actual binder. Fried eggs on a board have nothing on some of these guys.

Or you know, there's always broken ribs. Those hurt.

It's up to you to weigh the options out:

Binder- £30, comfort, no lasting damage, reuseable.

Ducttape- cheap as ass, uncomfortable, damaged breast tissue, possible requirement for boob job in future. Possible broken ribs that ruin the entire event and several weeks afterwards.

So yeah, if you want to, do it! I'm just giving you advice for no reason, it's not like I want to you know, prevent others from harming themselves or anything.

-Tab


I thank you all for your help, I think im with Hitachiin on this one though, although a binder is probably the best and safest idea,I think buying one now I would not use one in the future.

I thank everyone for their concern, but I would just like to reassure everybody, I do no the damage that can come with binding. ^_^


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08 Oct 2009 - 18:1720672
This post has gone off topic,
I hope you find a solution to your problem.
I think i shall stop checking this post, I might say something extremly rude to someone.


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08 Oct 2009 - 18:2620675
Quote KhaosKreator:
Stetch bandages actually stretch with you chest which means they compress you throughout the day, getting tighter and harder to breathe in.

They also slip about meaning what starts out as flat binding becomes lumpy as it gathers into one place, leaving other parts exposed. Not flattering, and there is a possibility of them actually slipping down and pretty much you going without boob support. Not fun.

I have this T-kingdom binder:

http://www.t-kingdom.com/shopping/english/page1480_english.shtml

I've just checked prices and with shipping that one is £35. When I bought mine though it was £30 due to the exchange rate. If you're a cosplayer though I'm sure there might be a friend who will share shipping costs with you if they want one too.


I'm getting really tempted to buy a tonne of these in bulk and sell them at expo. A lot of the issue with people buying binders seems to be not the expense, but the fact a lot of cosplayers can't buy things online. If that generates any interest I'd look at doing that May expo.

Tab


Erk. :/ im definately looking into getting a binder. I dont find they slips though? :S as i use medical tape at the sides, holding the bandages in place (genrally speaking) But thankyou very much for the link!!


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