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20 Sep 2009 - 23:0719891
any advice for working with latex?
just as the title says I'm looking for advice on how to work with latex. a kinda trouble shooting guide and things I really need to know

anything will be of help


21 Sep 2009 - 03:0219894
I'd like to hear some advice on this too.
Such as how adhesive is it? Will it bond to felt for example?


22 Sep 2009 - 01:3319954
Take a look through Latex Kitty's site. Lots of tutorials explain a lot about how to making latex items.

http://makinglatexclothing.com/category/tutorials-and-how-to/


22 Sep 2009 - 12:4120000
That was quite helpful, thanks alot, I was more interested with working with liquid latex though. So instead of gluing a solid piece, is it possible to just paint on liquid latex so that it solidifies on the object. I guess similar to when people use latex body paint, but instead of skin, bonding to fabric, etc.


22 Sep 2009 - 14:3220009
Liquid latex will soak into fabrics like cotton, and wont come off. Things like PVC or plastic though I think it would just peel off - liquid latex is often used to make moulds for casting objects. It gets painted on in layers and when it has completely dried the latex mould is peeled away from the pattern. It is then filled with resin or plaster etc to make the casting which again doesn't stick to the latex mould.

So.. it will stick to fabric because it is pourous and the latex soaks in. But it won't stick to smooth surfaces very well.


22 Sep 2009 - 16:0420015
thanks for the link ranma some amazing little hints and tips there. I' also looking for more infomation of working with liquid latex, drying times, is it recomended to dilute etc my main interest is finding out how to apply the liquid latex to the surface of my costume.

if you have any links hidden away that could help with those that would be AMAZING!


22 Sep 2009 - 17:1220017
Latex sticks best to latex, pretty much - to get it attaching to other stuff I'd say either use a fabric with loose fibres (so the liquid can set around them and hold on), something like thin velcro would likely work, but you'll need enough layers to hide the surface texture underneath..

Or make your latex piece separate and superglue it on later.


22 Sep 2009 - 22:5420046
So you are wanting to basically apply liquid latex onto fabric?

I have seen this kind of thing being done to make scales and muscles on Predator suits over on a predator costume site -

The Hunters Lair..
http://www.thehunterslair.com/index.php?showtopic=4477&hl=macguyver%27s

enjoy



23 Sep 2009 - 01:0320058
Thanks so much Ranma1-2 and nert. I think I will try it. I'm basically aiming to get a smoother surface to a felt hat. One thing I'm concerned about is how smooth the latex will be. I intend to apply it using a brush, but I'm guessing that brush strokes may be visible if I do so, or perhaps I can slop it on and let gravity even it out smoothly?



Last edited by Zaiburst (23 Sep 2009 - 01:14)
23 Sep 2009 - 11:1420073
Quote Zaiburst:
Thanks so much Ranma1-2 and nert. I think I will try it. I'm basically aiming to get a smoother surface to a felt hat. One thing I'm concerned about is how smooth the latex will be. I intend to apply it using a brush, but I'm guessing that brush strokes may be visible if I do so, or perhaps I can slop it on and let gravity even it out smoothly?
Oh I see thats what you are trying to do. In that case I'm afraid I see lots of problems with what you are planning..
1. Liquid Latex will very quickly clog up the paintbrush - it dries very fast and sticks to bristles like you wouldn't imagine. Within minutes you will have a ball of matted latex stuck to your brush.
2. The surface will not be smooth like you hope, and you won't be able to sand it or anything.
3. Gravity won't help much because the latex either run down in streaks or set as it is dripping down.
Either way I think it will end up looking worse than when you started.

May I suggest a completely different route.. How about covering the felt hat with streatch satin. I covered my Top Hat this way for my Zatanna costume (progress pics are in the Zatanna journal).
Or..if you don't want to cover the hat with material I would use PVA white glue instead of the latex idea. PVA will soak into the felt and make the surface smoother. But you will need to put on a few coats to build up the surface to completely smooth. And then it will look plasticky and shiney. It's up to you how you want the finished hat to look.


25 Sep 2009 - 03:5720168
ah, thanks for the warnings. I'll try the stretch satin idea out.

I'm still tempted to use the latex on something else though, I have some body armour that I would like to look rubbery and a bit shiny, but it might be the same problems with the application. I think I'll test a bit out, and if it looks too bad I can at least just peel it off.



Last edited by Zaiburst (25 Sep 2009 - 04:00)
25 Sep 2009 - 10:5920174
Quote Ranma1-2:
So you are wanting to basically apply liquid latex onto fabric?

I have seen this kind of thing being done to make scales and muscles on Predator suits over on a predator costume site -

The Hunters Lair..
http://www.thehunterslair.com/index.php?showtopic=4477&hl=macguyver%27s

enjoy



Thanks again Ranma, this is the process I'm attempting to do just I found the tutorial on that web page didnt really give enough details on the time scale and the best way to work the latex onto the fabric.

Thanks for the help but I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and just give it a try see how it goes. nothing better then trail and error to learn from hehe


25 Sep 2009 - 11:0120175
Yep. Best wishes with your costume construction guys.


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