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22 Aug 2009 - 23:0018637
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On one foryum this was misinterpreted as advertising! this is not as I have yet to establish a site or begin signups so please bear with me and I apologise unreservedly if anyone is offended by my using the forum to gather info!

Hi guys. I'm in the process of setting up a new convention in the North East of the Uk (Middlesbrough to be exact!) in April 2010 and someone has raised an interesting point that I need some feedback on!

At the moment I have the town hall as a possible venue giving me a possible capacity of between 1000 and 1500. Now, the problem is the hall is in the centre of Middlesbrough meaning people would have to walk through the city to get to the Con. It has been suggested that this might deter people from attending the Con as wearing your outfits in public would make it awkward for some people who would feel self conscious and a concern was voiced that it might provoke conflict with chavs etc.

I'd like to ask two questions therefore:

1) would people be comfortable enough to attend a town centre Con given the points above?

2) Are people interested in a Convention in the North east enough to buy tickets and attend?

One of the events I'm trying to organise for the Con is a Cosplay fashion show with two elements. Firstly, a show by companies in the U.K selling Cosplay outfits for people to see what's available and secondly, a show where people at the con wear their outfits and we vote/elect the best two costumes!

I'd love to hear your thoughts guys!

Thanks for your time and feel free to PM/e-mail me if you want to know more!

James Adams (NemaCon organiser).


22 Aug 2009 - 23:2718638
An extra thing you may want to bear in mind - that's quite a busy time of the year for UK cons already, since there's Kitacon on 26-28 March and Minamicon on 16-18 April. You may find it difficult to get registrations at that time of year when a lot of people are already having to decide between two cons as it is.


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23 Aug 2009 - 00:4618644
Sillabub beat me to it! I think with Minamicon, Kitacon and May Expo in March, April and May you'd be hard pressed to get much attendance.

I'm still waiting for a con to be around Christmas time LOL But I guess people are poor around that point in the year


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23 Aug 2009 - 17:5318670
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Hmm, thanks guys, appreciate the comments. Anime League reckon we should run mid June, what do you think?


23 Aug 2009 - 18:0918672
Quote witchhunter:
Hmm, thanks guys, appreciate the comments. Anime League reckon we should run mid June, what do you think?


LOL Mentioning the AL on here isn't such a good idea ^_^'

And I personally thing that's not a great time. Most people will be involved in exams around then.


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23 Aug 2009 - 18:2818674
End of June is likely to be the best if anything - mid-June is still exam season and very very close to the London Expo and more people are likely to attend that instead.

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=180964
I made a post on cos.com stating when each con in the UK is and where it's held - hopefully that will help distinguish a date for you.

Perhaps November in 2011 would be a good choice? They have Auchinawa for the Northeners but it happens every other year on even numbers, therefore if you hold Nemacon on odd numbers then it works out that people up North will get a con every year. Plus it gives you much longer to plan!


24 Aug 2009 - 11:0818714
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Hmm, beginning to get the feeling that running any time of year is going to cause problems for someone! (or clash with another event and put someone's nose out!)

i guess a lot depends on if i can get the town hall and when the venues available to me have holes in their booking calendars.!

At least there do seem to be some of you interested in a 'Con getting established north of the watford gap!

Thanks for your comments, it's really helpful and I really appreciate it. Keep the feedback coming and as I'm relatively new to this, feel free to suggest the things you'd like to see at NemaCon if we can greenlight it!


24 Aug 2009 - 12:5318716
Quote sjbonnar:
I'm still waiting for a con to be around Christmas time LOL But I guess people are poor around that point in the year

=puts her old-school hat on=

There was a con held at new year once upon a time - Shinnenkai, which ran in London in 1997 and 1998 (and which were my first two cons... so many memories...). They both had quite a few attendees too, considering how tiny the fan scene was at the time (12 entrants in the masquerade, can you imagine?!). You'd need to come up with something much more spectacular these days since there are so many events throughout the year, of course, but I suspect that if there were enough of a reason to attend an event at that time of year, anime fans would find the cash to do so. But there's a much bigger problem with the time of year that I remember from those cons - even if the weather isn't being a complete bugger, the transport most assuredly will be!


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24 Aug 2009 - 13:0018717
Quote Sillabub:
Quote sjbonnar:
I'm still waiting for a con to be around Christmas time LOL But I guess people are poor around that point in the year

=puts her old-school hat on=

There was a con held at new year once upon a time - Shinnenkai, which ran in London in 1997 and 1998 (and which were my first two cons... so many memories...). They both had quite a few attendees too, considering how tiny the fan scene was at the time (12 entrants in the masquerade, can you imagine?!). You'd need to come up with something much more spectacular these days since there are so many events throughout the year, of course, but I suspect that if there were enough of a reason to attend an event at that time of year, anime fans would find the cash to do so. But there's a much bigger problem with the time of year that I remember from those cons - even if the weather isn't being a complete bugger, the transport most assuredly will be!


So I have heard LOL It's a shame though as I think an event that time of year would be pretty magickal ^_^ But I can understand the difficulties with it!

Still, I've gotta say Witch hunter that I think CrystalNeko's idea is fantastic. If you ran opposite years with Auchinawa you'd have plenty of time for planning, you'd have an event with a great deal of attendance and it wouldn't be as financially/emotionally taxing as a yearly con would ^_^ Ayacon and Amecon did it and they're both doing brilliantly!


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25 Aug 2009 - 01:4718749
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hmm, the thing is that you guys down south are spoilt for cons with the expo's, kitacon, ayacon, alcon etc! we up north are a little starved!

I will certainly bear the idea in mind but as i have meeting tomorrow/later with the council, I'll have to keep it as an option depending on what the council want me to do! wish me luck as i have to convince them to front the deposit for the townhall (about 2K or more I think) as well as covering licences, PL insurance, event insurance etc! lets hope the feedback from guys like you has given me enough info to talk em round!

I'll let you guys know how it goes!

James


25 Aug 2009 - 12:2218758
While a convention in the North East would be fantastic for those of us who live here, I think there's a number of reasons it wouldn't be able to happen, unfortunately.

The first thing is the town you've chosen...Middlesbrough! XD I'm a Teessider (like you!) and live in Stockton, so frequent Middlesbrough regularly, and there is absolutely *no* way that it could ever be deemed safe to wander about in cosplay in 'boro, or indeed Teesside, day or night, especially not if you have to traipse through the town centre. There's also the issue of obtaining food, congoers would have to go into the town centre to get some and well...It's just not safe!

Also, what about accomodation? Again, the Thistle Hotel is probably the only one big enough to hold any amount of people and it's right on the outskirts. The Swallow Hotel in Stockton would have been a possibility for the venue on a smaller scale, actually, had it not just gone out of business; I used to work there while I was studying at college and we ran a successful Dr Who convention every year for about 400 attendees.

Transport links, also, aren't amazing. I know there's a train station and buses, but again, I wouldn't advocate jumping on a train to 'boro in cosplay...

Venue limitations, too; Does the town hall have a bar? Catering facilities? I honestly don't know the answer to this but it's all something to bear in mind. I'm a bit confused; you've written that you've got a meeting with MCC where you want to ask them to pay £2k upfront to secure the venue; but I'm not sure why they would do this? I understand bringing tourism into 'Boro would class as a reason, but since it would be an event all held in one building, and it's not safe to be travelling about in cosplay, the rest of Middlesbrough wouldn't really be benefitting from the amount of attendees coming in and out, would it? If I'm misunderstanding, please do explain, I could just be being daft! ^_~

Number of attendees; While there are quite a few of us who live up in the North East and you'd get people travelling in also...I think it's a bit optimistic to expect an attendance of 1,000-1,500 con-goers to come to a con that's never ran before in a town that's quite far out. Aya & Ame only ever have somewhere in between that number of attendees and they're huge, have ran succesfully for the past 7 years, and are located in pretty much the middle of the country, with good transport links. I don't think that congoers, even in the North East would be prepared to exchange the big summer con for something closer to home; maybe the best thing to do would be to start small, like running a one day convention here.

I also think that the convention calendar is packed enough, really; there is a con that runs practically *every* month in the UK and I just don't think people have the time and money to attend any more than they already do; Aya/Ame, an expo and now the grand cosplay ball are as much as my fiance and I can do every year, both in terms of finances and holiday allowance at work; it just gets too expensive. Also, if there are more and more cons being introduced every year, the novelty might wear off a bit...and every other con is held in a city as opposed to a town, too.

Sorry for the tl;dr, but I think if a north eastern con were to run, your best bet is a large hotel like the Marriot in Newcastle; there's good transport links (the metro), the metro centre next door for food, and it's away from the city centre.

That being said, it's lovely to see an awareness up here, so I think what you're doing is fantastic. :3


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25 Aug 2009 - 13:1618760
i would certainly consider attending such a convention, and am not dettered by having to walk through the town in cosplay to get to it (i usually make excuses so i can do this).

however, as the others have said, it is a very busy time for cons, and im alread pretty much booked out during that time. i have Kitacon end of March, then i have Anime Detour (in America) end of April, then May Expo in May. plus the others cons mentioned above im not attending. perhaps a reshuffle on time would be wise if you want maximum attendance. if its a time when i dont have many cons on, ill certainly look into it ^^


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