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30 Apr 2009 - 00:1713679
health vs cosplay
I got this idea from the height/weight vs cosplay threads and something a friend of mine mentioned. Basically, she had a problem and would find it painful to wear a binder at a con and felt that her costume would be wrong if she didn't wear one. So it's got me wondering about what you guys think and what you would do in such a situation?
I mean, if you found it painful to wear a binder would you not go ahead with that cosplay? Wear a binder or something similar that would make you boyish but will be less painful? Or not bother with the binder?

Of course the whole binder thing is an example, there are many other health related things that might make certain cosplays awkward. It's very hard to explain to be honest but I hope you understand. I know some people are picky and feel that if they couldn't do this or wear that then they would be inaccurate or something, but I feel that it doesn't matter so long as you're not hurting yourself. For example, it may be inaccurate for a male character to have boobs but it can't be helped if you, say, broke a rib and can't wear a binder.

So, let's hear your opinions ne?


30 Apr 2009 - 00:2513680
if you dont feel comfortable in something you can still do it accurately like if a char wears a corset but u dont want to wear one you can just make something that looks like one :/


30 Apr 2009 - 01:0113682
If you are willing to wear a binder with a broken rib then I would just say the suffering is NOT worth it. It could just make your health become worse and I'm sure being a male character with boobs is a little sacrifice for your body to heal properly and not have implications in the future because you decided you can bare the pain. Because as said, you can be accurate even with boobs.

Though that also goes with most parts of the body that are broken. It's just not worth it to suffer like that and possibly make things worse on yourself. -.- Which in turn could stop you making cosplays or cosplaying later on. Better to heal faster!

With that said, the only health problems I have had is the lack of sleep and the burns I get when making a last minute rush with cosplays before I'm meant to wear them. Heels are also what I put myself through on occasion if the characters have them.

Oh and as L I went a whole weekend without shoes. Oh how my feet suffered then! I had to have people carry me over the rocky areas of the campsite because there was also glass. XD


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30 Apr 2009 - 04:1313686
Quote Demented Kid:
If you are willing to wear a binder with a broken rib then I would just say the suffering is NOT worth it. It could just make your health become worse and I'm sure being a male character with boobs is a little sacrifice for your body to heal properly and not have implications in the future because you decided you can bare the pain. Because as said, you can be accurate even with boobs.

Though that also goes with most parts of the body that are broken. It's just not worth it to suffer like that and possibly make things worse on yourself. -.- Which in turn could stop you making cosplays or cosplaying later on. Better to heal faster!

With that said, the only health problems I have had is the lack of sleep and the burns I get when making a last minute rush with cosplays before I'm meant to wear them. Heels are also what I put myself through on occasion if the characters have them.

Oh and as L I went a whole weekend without shoes. Oh how my feet suffered then! I had to have people carry me over the rocky areas of the campsite because there was also glass. XD


I feel for you there. I once got a blister the size of a 50p because my friends and i had to walk a long way to someones house and my feet ached for ages afterwards. I ended up having to walk on the sides of my feet and it in turn made my legs and back ache even more. And my friend didn't even give me a piggy back when I asked him D:
That was hell, so I'd hate to have to do that for cosplay.

I don't understand why some cosplayers are so 'nitpicky' over this kind of thing tho. I understand people being picky about accuracy in costumes and others costumes, I'm picky when it comes to getting things just right for my costumes but I'd go with inaccuracy any day if it meant being comfortable. That said, the only pain I get with my binder/vest thing is putting it on and taking it off. I've lost count of how many times i've heard my shoulder, arms and collar bones crack (i don't think I've broken anything yet thank god)


30 Apr 2009 - 09:2713692
I have a problem with my legs that means I always need to be wearing trousers, etc.
So for my Rosette Christopher cosplay, instead of wearing knee-high white socks, I'm gonna wear white leggings or tights.

It's a shame the costume won't be "fully accurate" but if I wore the socks, I could end up being laid up for days ><


30 Apr 2009 - 09:5213694
Sometimes the only time that fully accurate costumes can be done in a secure, indoors environment like a photo studio, where there's no glass on the floor, no long distances to walk etc etc.
Other than that, it's severely impractical to follow some cosplays to a T, (especially going to and from conventions) as a lot of cosplays are unrealistic and it can damage your health, and health does come first in my opinion!

If I absolutely have to be in cosplay and am going a long distance, or doing something strenuous or taxing, I'll make sure I'm totally comfortable first!


30 Apr 2009 - 10:4013697
I've seen a thread sort of like this on Cosplay.com, called "What won't you do for cosplay?". Basically, anything that will affect my health, will change my general appearance (unless I want that) or make me feel uncomfortable, I won't do.

E.g. I won't go on a crash diet to cosplay a stick-thin character. I won't get a piercing just because a character has one. I won't cut/dye my hair to match a character. Catch my drift? XD

This is a hobby, so I'm not going to get carried away with things. I'm not going to make stupid decisions just to wear a costume for a day. This is a fun thing to do and I don't base my entire life around it, so I'm not going to let it take over my life either.


30 Apr 2009 - 10:5013699
i have tryed indureing with a cosplay that hurt and i wouldnt recomend it to anyone (my van boots made me have blisters the size of my foot)

i also have arthritus in both of my kneecaps so cannot put on heavy cosplays or any cosplay that will put more pressuer on my knees, so def avoid that type of cosplay as it will be to painfull..

i would say to anyone do wot feels ok.... if it hurts at all dont do it.... it can still look good even if its not exactly how u would want it.


(plz ignore my spelling mistakes)


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30 Apr 2009 - 10:5713700
I dont think mega crash diet is the answer but if a con takes like i dont know 6-7 months to come I see no reason I cant cut down and take longer walks instead of buses and stuff ^.^ not only makes you feel better about cosplay but about yourself tooz ^^


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30 Apr 2009 - 11:0613701
I would never intentionally do anything to affect my health for cosplay. I'm a runner and so can't afford to damage my health or it would affect my training too.

However I have inadvertently injured myself in cosplay. Spending a whole day in the 'LeBlanc' pose actually really hurt my back, and it took ages to recover. h


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30 Apr 2009 - 12:1913704
Quote GunstarVixen:
I would never intentionally do anything to affect my health for cosplay. I'm a runner and so can't afford to damage my health or it would affect my training too.

However I have inadvertently injured myself in cosplay. Spending a whole day in the 'LeBlanc' pose actually really hurt my back, and it took ages to recover. h


I know what you mean on that one, when pulling my "angry Charles face" pose my jowels kept twitching...

The next day I had purple marks all over my face where I had pulled my facial muscles ;_;



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30 Apr 2009 - 19:4413711
Voldo Pose.


I used to perfectly fine with it, but then at minami I did the pose and suddenly cramped up. Like proper full back cramping-oh-shit.

I think that's the only way cosplay has ever affected my health. Besides the whole lack of sleep and stupidly stressed thing.

Oh, and the epic tale of me tripping as Ivy. But it was more of a case that I shouldn't have even had to use a set of stairs for that costume, and I totally blame the event organisers for it.

Christian tends to die each time he's in eggman from teh sheer heat of it. Also Matt's Nightmare helmet was slightly too small...

Tab


30 Apr 2009 - 20:0613714
I was inuyasha in manchester and i ended up cutting my feet on glass and had to have a reno cosplayer put a plasyer on my foot! was embbarasing coz i didnt even notice it was cut XD

i belive it dont matter
if you flat chested good for you. if you got huge boobs flaunt them lol but if you wanna be a guy dont hurt yourself to do it


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05 May 2009 - 11:3213945
I was very ill the week before KitaCon. This resulted in Fran being made in two days. The night before KitaCon, I was up until 2am being encased in glue fumes, paint fumes, and other assorted fumes, and as a result I was vommitting and almost passing out every five minutes. I had to get up at 4.30. I was lucky I survived that day I think, not to mention I get unbelievably travel sick.

Cosplay, to me, goes hand in hand with a couple of health problems for me. I am used to the pre-con stresses, and one hug from someone and I calm right down again into a pile of happy goop. I know that it will make me tired, but I'm an insomniac anyway (though I'm getting better) so I'm used to feeling sick from being tired. I have a stupidly bad back because the muscles in it get knarled very easily but I play Tabletennis anyway and cosplaying can't put more stress on it than a full on three hour training session ^^ Cosplaying won't make me any worse in some respects.

However, I also have very weak arms (which is one reason my love of tabletennis makes no sense XD), so it means I get frustrated and angry when I can't sand something quick enough or saw into plastic and the like. I'll do it, but sometimes I'll be crying whilst I'm doing it because my arms are hurting that much. Other times they'll just lock completely and I won't be able to move them for several hours. (It also happened at AmeCon from too much draggin heavy luggage, parapara, and partying.)

Also, I get feverish quite a lot, have very low blood pressure, and am anaemic so my strength isn't brilliant. It means that in a convention environment sometimes people have to keep an eye on me to make sure I'm not pushing myself over the limit and that I drink plenty of water.

Unfortunately a lot of my health problems can't be avoided.

With regards to binding, I wear corsets quite regularly anyway. So long as the binding is easy to get off I'm not too bad with it. I think it's silly for people with broken ribs to bind up though, I'd rather see a happy, healthy crossplayer than a crossplayer who looks great but has just passed out on the floor ><


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07 May 2009 - 21:4214104
^Wow, you must really love cons and cosplaying a lot to push yourself through all that!

I tend to generally feel better health-wise at cons than in normal life, probably due to the sugar and adrenaline. For example, at Kitacon I got a 5.50am train, ate a sandwich at half ten, and then ate nothing but a little bit of pocky the rest of the day and was completely fine, whereas normally any lack of sleep makes me horrendously tired and lack of food can make me really dizzy and sometimes close to fainting.

The only exception to all this was my Mia Fey shoes. I bought the perfect pair of shoes from eBay but I had to first of all cut along the tongue to fit into them (I don't generally wear slip-ons because the ridge on both my feet is abnormally high) and then realised they were too small anyway so walking about in them for a whole day was a nightmare. I couldn't even take them off because walking barefoot afterwards made said ridge on my foot click painfully each time I took a step (I have a lot of mysterious problems with my feet...) so it wasn't until I got back into my trainers that all was well again.


10 May 2009 - 10:5014188
I think one of the worst and most common things cosplayers do to themselves is not eat or drink for an entire day. I'm guilty of this to an extreme! It might make you not need the toilet for a while but it makes you feel horrible the next day.


10 May 2009 - 23:1814234
wouldn't physically hurt myself for cosplay, but I would suffer pain and discomfort.


10 May 2009 - 23:3314235
Worst I've done is not eat/drink as much as I should have done during the day really; I didnt actually feel hungry at all though, infact I felt great at the expo, but I felt horrible the next day ...then I got a cold ^^

I tend to cut my hands alot working on wigs, but thats it, lol.

I think if a part of a cosplay was going to seriously damage my health I just wouldnt do it, but if it was only a bit uncomfortable I'd probably just put up with it.


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11 May 2009 - 11:3114251
I'm really guilty of the whole not eating and drinking thing too. I had a really awful migraine as a result of one of those kind of days at a Midlands event last year. That was awful, so I try my best to avoid it however I can now, just trying to eat little snacks as and when I can throughout the day! =D

Other than that, the only other health-related issue I have when it comes to cosplay is contact lenses. I wear glasses all day every day, but for the sake of accuracy, don't like to wear them for costumes. I went to the opticians to see if I could get some contact lenses just for occasional wear, but as soon as I had them in my eyes, I went all weird and nearly passed out x_X

It wasn't a pleasant experience, and I haven't tried to put them in again since. I am one of those people who is incredibly nit-picky about details and accuracy, so the fact that I can't change my eye colour does, on occasion, stop me cosplaying certain characters. There are other times when I want to do a cosplay so much I just grin and bear the inaccuracy, like with Ren for instance! But yes, I do have bad eyes/a severe headache after every con through straining them when not wearing glasses =<


11 May 2009 - 16:1714261
Ahh thats not really hurting yourself its just forgetful i challenge anyone here not to say they havent missed out on a meal or two for a con I know I have


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11 May 2009 - 16:3414268
Personally I don't think many things are worth putting yourself through that much physical discomfort for, and especially not cosplay! If your friend has broken their ribs then they could make it far far worse! If they are that desperate for accuracy then either lay off this particular costume or try a different method of binding, such as side binding with tape or wearing a comfortable sports bra.

I'm guilty of wearing uncomfortable shoes because I love my heels, but then I do that everyday and the more you wear them the more you get used to it. I also currently hand sew all my costumes which gives you achy arm and stomach muscles but it also tones them up quite considerably!

But yes, mostly it is important to remember that cosplay is a fun hobby, not a complete way of life and it would be foolish to cause yourself physical damage for it.


11 May 2009 - 19:0014273
Quote Adamoluna:
wouldn't physically hurt myself for cosplay, but I would suffer pain and discomfort.


Ditto! I mean binding, footwear, armour, etc can be a real discomfort at times but I don't mind it too much. However if I had a broken rib then no way in hell would I go through with binding because I'd rather stay fit and healthy than jeopardize my health X_x;

I like sports too much, if I got hurt then that means no more sports for me making a sad Neko ;-;


18 May 2009 - 22:1414587
(Esper, darn those Ace Attorney women and their shoes, right?)

Though it's probably not as bad as what most have said here nor was it at a con I feel I should mention it; heels. Not even ones that are particularly high, nor is it all heels but this pair in particular I have and wear for my Ema Skye outfit. I first wore it to a night out at the fair with some friends in cosplay, having not been used to high heels due to being tall and wishing to avoid extra height most the time I didn't know what to expect. I'd worn heels before, ages ago, but assumed it wouldn't be a problem despite this and boy was I wrong. I wasn't at school the next day for other reasons but to be honest I'm glad, however I did have to wear them again in the evening for one of the Tokyopop ReCons, I was kicking myself the whole time for not thinking ahead. I've gotten more used to heels since but I wish I'd have been bright enough to take the time to wear them out a bit.

If you don't already, which is pretty rare, test out your costumes, even if it's a comfy looking costume you'll be grateful if something niggles even what seems like a little at first.



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20 May 2009 - 02:2914662
I just want to point out that she didn't have broken ribs, it was something else. I was using the whole broken rib thing as an example.
That aside, the most that's happened to me so far (other than my binder) is discomfort from wearing contacts for too long, my Tobi mask (i made it wrong and it now sits on my nose whenever i wear it) and my naruto sandels, the velcro bit dug into my ankle a bit after a while so i had to improvise with the bandages to stop it. Oh and nearly walking into various objects ^^; mostly because one of the costumes, the wig covers my eyes and also Tobi's mask cause it only has one eye-hole.


20 May 2009 - 22:2414703
i wouldn't crash diet for cosplay
i'd probably exercise more to tone up my stomach a few months before the con if a cosplay showed my stomach (amulet devil for example >.< )

i am guilty of living off of nothing but pocky when i go to conventions, so i'm always really sick for about a week afterwards


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