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16 Mar 2009 - 20:4011832
Skit Panel at conventions
Well, just something that came up on the "does yaoi take things too far?" thread that got the brain gears turning.

The discussion became about skits and how people find them boring. So instead of complaining about it, I figured it might be fun to do a panel on skit making to help people who are new at it, or those who just want a little feedback on their ideas.

The way I would set it out would be kinda like a place to pitch ideas- like we explain how Uber-nerd constructs skits, someone else explains their way of doing it, show some skits off and then we get the audience to maybe pitch forth ideas for skits and see what people think, and constructive crit as well. No idea which con we'd be aiming at doing it for as this is early stages.

Would anyone be interested in helping run the panel? Would anyone actually be interested in seeing this? I'd love your thoughts and opinions.

Tab


16 Mar 2009 - 21:0711838
me and Monkey are intrested in coming along

i would love to learn about ideas and presenting and shiz nizz


16 Mar 2009 - 21:5111844
I'd be interested in helping to run it. I'm a writer by nature and have written plays, written and choreographed performances in the past too. My friends don't like performing or I'd make more skits LOL I really want to do a Hellsing one involving the Millennium and something comical since I'll have my Major costume finished soon...

ANYWHO LOL

I'd be interested in helping if you require it.


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16 Mar 2009 - 23:0411848
Anything to improve skits is good. As you say audiences are getting bored seeing the same thing repeated.
I think it's a great idea to discuss skits and walk on's generally.. Could you also do a forum version? And if it goes really well perhaps it could become a stickey - sort of a 'guide to doing a good skit'. (or could you show me where that thread is pl?)


16 Mar 2009 - 23:3011853
It's kinda hard to post a tutorial on skit making without it becoming a "THIS IS HOW YOU BE FUNNEH" thing. A panel would be better for people to give feedback and to nourish ideas instead of beating down on them with the fist of skit rules.

Well, not as dramatic as that, but you understand.

To be honest it is a bit of an excuse to go to a convention, show some funny videos and talk about amusing things. And then figure out how to make things more amusing.

Knowing our group we'd videotape anything we do anyway, so if we do a panel it will appear on the internet anyway. Just not in written word.

Tab


17 Mar 2009 - 00:3811859
Ohhh I get it - you want to stand in front of a projection screen with a long pointing stick don'tcha. (just jkg)
Well I'd certainly join in if it's an Expo I'm attending.

So how would it work - would the show organisers let you use the stage and seated area for example?


17 Mar 2009 - 08:2511864
I don't think places like expo would let us do anything. We'd be better off going to a three day convention where there are normally things like work shops.

Expo panels are things like "Here's a celebrity!".

Tab


17 Mar 2009 - 08:4811865
Ummm, is there already a 3 day convention that you could crash, or would you have to organise the whole thing, booking a place and all?


17 Mar 2009 - 11:4211871
It would be something like you ask a con a couple months before you go if that's something they'd like to have there. Like how things like cosplay workshops are set up by cosplayers attending the convention.

Tab


17 Mar 2009 - 13:5711875
Amecon, Ayacon, Kitacon etc etc

I don't think there would be a problem getting someone to accept the panel at all.


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17 Mar 2009 - 14:4011880
You think? I guess I'm a bit nervous about doing it because I've only been conning for a year (aniversary of first con this Minami actually) so I don't really feel as though I have enough credentials if you will. Though I've won something in every expo and con we've entered when we've done skits, so I guess we're doing something right.

That's why I want other people to join us in this- that way we can get more years of experience and combine with our new blood to see what we can do.

I may aim to do something at ayacon to see if they want something. I was planning to go anyway and do a skit with someone besides Uber nerd (because only some of the crew can come to ayacon, and it's not enough to do an ubernerd skit)

Now I just need people who are willing to help out with the panel. I'd like people who have done skits so we can show them during the panel. I may try to track down some of the people who did skits that I really enjoyed and see if they're interested at all. And then bribe them.

Sbjonner do you have any examples of skits you've written? Obviously talking part isn't the main factor, as we're looking at the writing side of things as well.

Tab


18 Mar 2009 - 00:0311902
I would be intriged to see the panel. Even though I've attended cons for over 17 years I've only done a couple of skits in that lifetime and they were a few years old. So audience tastes will of changed.

I personally haven't done many skits as I've worked as a professional actress since 1992. So for me its like doing unpaid work. If you would like, I can help out if you need sugguestions or setting up the panel.


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18 Mar 2009 - 03:5811915
I'm interested in seeing this, I can't help out tho because I've not done any skits yet. When you mentioned help with walk ons, I wondered if you could add something like help with people who're nervous about doing Masquerades. I have trouble acting in-character or doing in-character poses, which is something that's also found in skit's ne? and I'm very shy and get stage fright easily, so I think this panel may help as a confidence booster for people like that :3
Would you be including choreography also? I'd love to learn something for a future skit I have in mind XD


18 Mar 2009 - 07:5611920
I'd be really interested in coming to watch.
I also would love to help, but I don't have any experience. XD I just like telling people what to do.


18 Mar 2009 - 08:5711922
Quote kilik_hiwatari:
I'm interested in seeing this, I can't help out tho because I've not done any skits yet. When you mentioned help with walk ons, I wondered if you could add something like help with people who're nervous about doing Masquerades. I have trouble acting in-character or doing in-character poses, which is something that's also found in skit's ne? and I'm very shy and get stage fright easily, so I think this panel may help as a confidence booster for people like that :3
Would you be including choreography also? I'd love to learn something for a future skit I have in mind XD


We can have a look at doing walk ons as well- We did a sort of one as Voldo and Yoshimitsu and I think that's what really won us a prize at expo. So yeah, it's pretty important.

@Sephirayne- thanks for volenteering! I may come to you with ideas more than anything, especially as you would know more about choreography than I would. I kinda make it up as I go. Some stunt tips might actually go down really well as well.

Tab


18 Mar 2009 - 11:4511927
Quote Uber-Nerd:

We can have a look at doing walk ons as well- We did a sort of one as Voldo and Yoshimitsu and I think that's what really won us a prize at expo. So yeah, it's pretty important.

Tab
Def part of it, because points are awarded for 'on stage presecence' and your walkon performance was brill BUT the costumes themselves were amazing to start with. Basically you put such a lot of thought/work into both costume and stage time, and it showed. That is cosplay at its best and why you deservedly won.

I'd love to see people doing more with their stage time. It can be so much more fun for everyone if time and creativity is put into the performance as well as the costume.


18 Mar 2009 - 11:5211928
sjbonnar LOL I really want to do a Hellsing one involving the Millennium and something comical since I'll have my Major costume finished soon.

Hellsing skit would be really fun, hardly any of my friends are up for perfomance stuff its really quite sad. *be nice to see Rip on stage I hardly ever see skits with her in ^^

as for the panel idea you know what, it sounds like a good wheeze ^^ if your generally going to a con im attending count my in for helping, A-level Drama and theatre studies at the disposal and ive been known to write.

I think its a really good thing your doing here, the Yaoi thread got a little ugly and im glad something good came from it. ^^


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18 Mar 2009 - 12:4511929
Quote Ranma1-2:
Quote Uber-Nerd:

We can have a look at doing walk ons as well- We did a sort of one as Voldo and Yoshimitsu and I think that's what really won us a prize at expo. So yeah, it's pretty important.

Tab
Def part of it, because points are awarded for 'on stage presecence' and your walkon performance was brill BUT the costumes themselves were amazing to start with. Basically you put such a lot of thought/work into both costume and stage time, and it showed. That is cosplay at its best and why you deservedly won.

I'd love to see people doing more with their stage time. It can be so much more fun for everyone if time and creativity is put into the performance as well as the costume.


That's one thing I want to address with skits and things- just because you're doing a skit doesn't mean you should skimp out on a costume. Some of the best and funniest skits occur when it looks like it's going to be a serious epic battle... and then they begin can caning.

Though there should always be a reason for cancanning to commence, and that's what makes it funnier.

Any way, thank you everyone for your support in this!

Tab


18 Mar 2009 - 14:0711932
Generally if you want to run a panel at an anime con, it's fairly easy to get approval. Certainly you would be welcome to run one at the next Ame - We have a cosplay workshop/panel room for exactly this sort of thing

In the dim and distant past we have had cosplay panels at Expo's. Stage time nowadays is in such a demand that it's unlikely that we would be able to swing it now though.

Depending on the event I'm sure myself or another member of the Wessex crew would be more than happy to help out though. Weve been skitting for 8 years now!


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18 Mar 2009 - 14:2311933
Quote Ilpala:
Generally if you want to run a panel at an anime con, it's fairly easy to get approval. Certainly you would be welcome to run one at the next Ame - We have a cosplay workshop/panel room for exactly this sort of thing

In the dim and distant past we have had cosplay panels at Expo's. Stage time nowadays is in such a demand that it's unlikely that we would be able to swing it now though.

Depending on the event I'm sure myself or another member of the Wessex crew would be more than happy to help out though. Weve been skitting for 8 years now!


Oh my god yes! I'd been wanting to ask one of you guys but didn't know if you'd be interested. I'd love to have you help as you really do know your skit stuff.

I've got some footage of the pimp master prime skit, but do you have any from previous years? It would be awesome to try an show some of your old stuff off.

Tab


18 Mar 2009 - 14:5511936
Hey Tab,

Like I said on the Yaoi thread, I'm more than happy to help with a skit panel. I've had one planned for a while, but it focuses on the physical skills to help improve the actual performance.

I'm more than happy to help on one about writing as well.

We could do a small series of them perhaps? Your one on writing, mine on performance? *shrug*

~M


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18 Mar 2009 - 16:5011938
Quote Uber-Nerd:


I've got some footage of the pimp master prime skit, but do you have any from previous years? It would be awesome to try an show some of your old stuff off.


I know theres footage kicking about online of Prime, Full Wessex Panic and Dragon Half. I'm pretty sure there are people with footage of Samurai Pizza Cats and Robot Wars too. Alas I suspect Excel Saga, Trigun and Fangirl Fantasy X may be lost to the mists of time though


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18 Mar 2009 - 18:5411940
Quote PrincessMark:
Hey Tab,

Like I said on the Yaoi thread, I'm more than happy to help with a skit panel. I've had one planned for a while, but it focuses on the physical skills to help improve the actual performance.

I'm more than happy to help on one about writing as well.

We could do a small series of them perhaps? Your one on writing, mine on performance? *shrug*

~M


I was waiting for you to pop your head up over on this thread. I'd love to have you help.

I think what we should do is to try a smallish panel at Ayacon to see how we go down, then adapt it for next time. Kinda like a test run, have a bit of everything from writing to preformance and a bit of skit showing (you got a video of top gurren yes?) and then a Q&A after we've started speaking. Maybe even something like skit improv there and then to put our skills to the test...

@ IIpala- do you have any idea which one of you would be going to ayacon and interested in doing something?

(ps, I want to see the samurai pizza cats one so much. But youtube has failed me!)

Tab


18 Mar 2009 - 20:0311943
If you're serious about it, submit an event request form through the Aya website.

Events aren't anywhere close to finalised yet, and more panels are always welcome.

You don't need to have all your plans clear just yet, just be sure you want to see it through.

Subi handles events but I don't see any reason he'd turn you down.


18 Mar 2009 - 21:0911945
Go for it It doesn't matter if you've not had much con experience - as long as you're enthusiastic, have ideas and there's a bit of interest give it a shot. I was nervous about applying to run a panel at Aya for the same reasons as you - not been to many cons, just have the panel idea and am enthusiastic about the subject. But if you really enjoy what you're talking about and you're in a room full of likeminded people, or those who'd like to know more, then I think you're set! If nothing else, we'll get to see some awesome skit videos so we've all got something to aspire to ^^ I think it'd be good to get some tips on how to put together a pan-anime skit - so it doesn't just look like a bunch of people are on stage who forgot to change out of their floor cosplays! They can be really good if done right.


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