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15 Jul 2013 - 18:36104984
Genderbending vs Crossplaying
Okay, scenario time;

You're wanting to cosplay character X, who's opposite to your gender. Which would you do? Genderbend the character, or crossdress to be the character, if it's possible?

Also, which pays more "homage" to the character?

My own opinions;

I dislike the idea of genderbending the character. I'd try my damnest to crossplay them as I feel that pays more homage to the character. Whilst I can deal with it when other people genderbend, for a good reason (ie, entire rule 63 group, you're a man with a beard and you're not willing to lose beard for said cosplay, you're a woman and the character doesn't believe in tops, etc) and I don't really mind when a lot of thought and attention is put in the character.

But, quite often, I just see girls using it as a way of wearing skimpy clothing (I suppose this also comes under the "I'm this character, but if they did this" - again, no issue there unless it's just a reason to wear very little). And that's a big pet peeve for me.

If anyone is interested, this has occurred cause my boyfriend is actively trying to get me to stop crossplaying, cause he's not "fond" of it, and his latest technique was to send me an image of a male character I want to cosplay but female (who wasn't recognisable at all ¬_¬) so I might be a taaaaad bitter about it all atm.

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15 Jul 2013 - 19:32104985
I really don't have much of an opinion of genderbending and looking nothing like the character, it's just for a bit of fun really.

I personally haven't done it and don't think I will any time soon because there are other cosplays I'd rather do. I usually like the fun in crossplay because I don't do it that often. I'm not a very creative person so unless I see an artwork that I really like that is genderbent then I won't go out of my way to create my own art and do it.

I've seen some amazing fashion inspired genderbent comic artworks that I am still very keen on doing. I'll be honest here and have no real interest in comics but I love the artwork so I'll most likely go ahead and do it just because I like how it looks!

As for the question which pays homage more. To be honest I think if the love for the character shows then either can pay homage equally. The fact that you took the time to cosplay that character proves it tbh.

15 Jul 2013 - 20:22104986
I've done both! I did a straight up Death the Kid and wanted to redo him but wanted to do a variant that I hadn't done before, so I thought why not do a female version? It's semi-canonical, as a bunch of other characters do get genderbent in the manga. Even though I've done it, I'm not always a huge fan of genderbends. Well thought out they can look amazing- a few expos ago I saw a female Soul Eater Evans and a male Maka Albarn who were amazing, they had a guitar and everything. As to which pays most homage to the character- usually the crossplay unless someone has put care and thought in to how to genderbend rather than trying to make it look sexy or whatever. I like to think I put a good deal of thought in to making my Death the Kid what he would look like female but as to whether it was a success your mileage may vary. I must admit I have a fairly fluid idea of gender, so genderbending a character need not alter them fundamentally.

But really if the question is about what you should do, then really it should be what you want to. I'm not sure why dressing up as a male character should bother you OH- does he think it makes him gay or something like that? So yeah, he's just being out of order telling you what you ought to cosplay.

15 Jul 2013 - 22:20104987
I always try and crossplay the character as I like the character for who they are, not what I think they should look like.

A few genderbends look good if it's done right. I don't like these ones where they change a character, for example Seto Kaiba from Yu-Gi-Oh, even if he was female I highly doubt he would walk around in a skimpy outfit. I just don't think it's in his character. But if done right, they can look really good.

But I do like to crossplay whenever I can, and as long as you can tell who the character is clearly, I think both can pay homage to the character, as long as it's done right.


15 Jul 2013 - 23:10104990
Quote NixieThePixie:
Okay, scenario time;

I prefer crossplay. But I'm open to genderbending IF the new character is faithful to the original, or does something clever with the idea.

Sadly its been spoiled for me by too many costumers treating gender-swaps as "sexy stripper" versions. It overshadows the good ones, and leads me to stifle comments like "But why would female Rorshach wear a basque and heels?"

15 Jul 2013 - 23:52104991
Genderbending is fine - since some people want to have that experience of cosplaying and maybe go about it with something they've already got in their wardrobe and to me that's fair enough unless they then see it as a free pass to slut up a character who wouldn't even dream of touching booty shorts for example. The gijinka community has that down already and I don't think there's room for more for that role.
I've only done the whole genderbend thing once, and that was a few years back when the 'Genderbending of Haruhi' was a hot topic and I honestly liked Kyon's genderbent version. It also meant I could wear my existing uniform and just have my own hair in a ponytail.

Crossplay (not just females to males, but the other way too) in itself shouldn't be frowned on, just as we shouldn't be judged for our colour, age, weight, height etc. Life is much too short to be making silly rules and browbeating people into abiding to them.
Not a single one of us are built to anime proportions with big googly eyes and hair that defies gravity and natural colour. Why start making more barriers than cosplayers already have to tolerate and get through?
It's a hobby and so long as you're having fun, you're doing it right and nobody should be able to take that experience from you. If my fiancé said I couldn't cosplay Naked Snake (one of my all time favourite characters)just because he had a beard he'd have my foot up his arse so fast that'd leave a permanent mark. It's your money, your time, your hobby so make the most out of it and do what YOU want to do.
If men (in general, not just in your case) can't bear the idea of a girl glueing facial hair to themselves and pretending to be a character for a day while totally accepting who they are in their day to day lives, then they're seriously butthurt or insecure about their masculinity - it's their problem to deal with.

16 Jul 2013 - 06:56104994
I've done both ^^;

In the end it's what you're comfortable with - but that same extension what people close to you are comfortable with.

For example, if I wanted to do a genderbend and a close friend didn't like the idea of it because he was her favourite character etcetc I'd say ok because it's better to just drop the idea than upset a friend, because the costume itself would not be enjoyable for me.

By that same token, I have asked my boyfriend not to crossplay but if he does not to expect me to act like his girlfriend while he does it because I feel uncomfortable with it. ^^; I understand your boyfriend's feelings, I really do!

My boyfriend understands why I feel uncomfortable with it and we've come to the agreement through some serious chatting with one another how we both feel about the issue.

Someone can't help feeling mightily uncomfortable with their other half cross dressing *shrugs* I just do. Perhaps it's because his mannerisms change when he does, perhaps it's because it's confusing because that he doesn't look or act like the person I live with? I don't know.

Just talk about it, it would be the best option and if it's putting your boyfriend through a lot of discomfort, wouldn't it be better not to cause it or try his genderbending suggestion?

Last edited by Jenivix (16 Jul 2013 - 07:11)
16 Jul 2013 - 08:46104995
I know everyone's relationship is different but if my fiance tried to stop me from crossplaying I'd be seriously upset. It's a part of my life and so it would to me be like he was rejecting a part of who I am. Fortunately for me he's very accepting of me and all my strange ways, which to me is the foundation of a good relationship. Obviously silver-vixi's partner accepts her wishes for him not to crossplay, this really doesn't mean you should have to.

16 Jul 2013 - 09:10104996
I forget how lucky I am to have a girlfriend who is supportive of my crossplaying! And in return I try to support her crossplaying too.

Quote silver-vixi:
Someone can't help feeling mightily uncomfortable with their other half cross dressing *shrugs* I just do. Perhaps it's because his mannerisms change when he does, perhaps it's because it's confusing because that he doesn't look or act like the person I live with? I don't know.

It might be worth examining your feelings further. Self-reflection in moderation is always worthwhile. Even if you still feel the same way afterwards you might learn more about yourself

I was initially uncomfortable with my girlfriend crossplaying, but when I thought more about it I realised it was because I was over-thinking how it looked to onlookers if I was seen holding hands with a "boy".

16 Jul 2013 - 12:18105001
It's such a shame that people use genderbent cosplays as an excuse to wear skimpy clothing - it usually just looks silly or unrecognisable, but some people seem to love such costumes. I've seen some good genderbent cosplays, but generally I don't see the point - I'd rather crossplay characters. For one thing I think it fits in better with most groups, unless you convince everyone to do gender swap versions.

21 Jul 2013 - 13:50105139
I've never really thought about this before. I agree with everyone about the crossplaying just to wear skimpy clothing. The same can be said for Gijinkas. I've crosplayed L before but I doubt you could really do a girl version of him because it would just be the same. I, myself really want to do a genderbender but only because I like to be a little creative with my cosplays and make them as detailed as possible.

As for relationships and crossplaying. I actually met my bf while I was dressed as L and just the other month at London expo I got him to dress up in lolita. I do understand it to some extent as I don't think I could show him any affection while he's just as a girl because he actually looks like one and I'm not attracted to women. But when dressed as a girl he is FREAKING ADORABLE!


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