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10 Jun 2013 - 09:33103890
Gun advice please (Nausicaa)
Hi so I've been making a gun out of foam for my Nausicaa costume. It's the biggest prop that I've tried using the foam method.

Before I paper mache it, I'd love to get advice. You can be honest, I'd appreciate that! How close is the shape of it to the reference?

I am aware of a couple of areas that are wrong (such as the top part of the barrel when it connects to the handle end - I slipped with the knife a little here and hope to use paper mache to build it back up as it makes the rifle look wonky).

The picture of it can be found here: http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/costume/view/55405

And here are some reference links (I am trying to make it MORE like the manga version - is it just me or is that version a lot skinnier and longer? But I'm also thinking of maybe a middle ground between manga and film, which I hope I've kind achieved so far):

Manga
http://wallpaperbackgrounds.com/Content/wallpapers/anime/nausicaa%20of%20the%20valley%20of%20the%20wind/109255-6129.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GoN5EPxM4Y8/TLYArXPUYeI/AAAAAAAAAqo/_bCCVcZNrNw/s1600/nau3422305.jpg


More film like (imo)
http://home.avvanta.com/~loganb/forumImages/nausicaaRifle_wip9.jpg
http://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/4/43294-large.jpg
http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/files/costumes/6442/55405/CI_55405_1362994947.jpg

I'm hoping to add the 'details' on after the paper mache and I am currently thinking of using craft foam for the details (but I'm looking for advice on that as I've not used it for stuff like this before). Do I need to go 'all out' and get some worblas or something? :/
Thanks!


10 Jun 2013 - 10:19103893
It does seem to change length between pictures XD

Your basic shape looks OK so far. I don't think you need go for thermoplastic for the details, but you might want to consider something like paperclay so you can get them more rounded and smooth. Unless you plan to sand your paper mache into shape.

How do you plan to do the bolt on top of the rifle?


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10 Jun 2013 - 10:38103895
Quote PandoraCaitiff:
It does seem to change length between pictures XD

Your basic shape looks OK so far. I don't think you need go for thermoplastic for the details, but you might want to consider something like paperclay so you can get them more rounded and smooth. Unless you plan to sand your paper mache into shape.

How do you plan to do the bolt on top of the rifle?


Hi, thanks for looking at this for me

Well basically I was planning to paper mache it and gesso (a lot) and then sand (a lot).
But I need add it all the details (including the bolt etc). So at first I was thinking about using plastiroc/das type stuff, or even cardboard cut outs and paper mache over to get a better shape. But I'm not sure whether I should use a craft foam or something else?

I think the plastiroc and das might be similar to a paper clay (not sure though). I used them for my Nausicaa helm (you can see that in the costume photos). If I do use them should I do inbetween the paper mache and gesso?


10 Jun 2013 - 11:45103898
I've not used Gesso before, so I can't help much. It looks OK though. And if you are sanding it should be fine.

Paperclay is pretty much like DAS/Sculpey/Plastiroc (although it can feel a bit spongy when dry), but the main difference is that when it dries it's incredibly light, and resembles foam insulation. I suppose on a gun prop in small amounts weight isn't much of an issue. You should be fine with your choice of clay.

So craft foam with a thin layer of clay for shaping should be OK.

For the bolt, any kind of lightweight tubing should be fine (I'd avoid any non-balsa woods or anything solid). And you should be able to find a polystyrene ball (or table tennis ball) in the right size to top it


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10 Jun 2013 - 13:42103906
Quote PandoraCaitiff:
I've not used Gesso before, so I can't help much. It looks OK though. And if you are sanding it should be fine.

Paperclay is pretty much like DAS/Sculpey/Plastiroc (although it can feel a bit spongy when dry), but the main difference is that when it dries it's incredibly light, and resembles foam insulation. I suppose on a gun prop in small amounts weight isn't much of an issue. You should be fine with your choice of clay.

So craft foam with a thin layer of clay for shaping should be OK.

For the bolt, any kind of lightweight tubing should be fine (I'd avoid any non-balsa woods or anything solid). And you should be able to find a polystyrene ball (or table tennis ball) in the right size to top it


Thanks a lot for the advice, really glad I put this up as I wasn't 100% with how to get all the details!! Defo will try everything you've mentioned!


24 Jun 2013 - 23:21104506
Love this, this is exactly how I used to make all my helmets/props, and still would if I had something that suited this method.

I would say if you have time the rifle could be a bit longer but if its easier to keep it a little shorter for transportation and any con restrictions then as is is totally fine.
For all those details you could easily build that up with paper mache and gesso as well as long as you're happy to put in the hours of sanding. Getting into wet sanding on it will smooth it all out really nicely, then just lots of layers of varnish to smooth it all out nicely. Bolts and PVC tubing cut down as mentioned above, are also great ways to get all the details.

What paints are you thinking of using? Some really nice metallic car sprays would look good when its all masked off.


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21 Jul 2013 - 16:45105143
Quote Sands:
Love this, this is exactly how I used to make all my helmets/props, and still would if I had something that suited this method.

I would say if you have time the rifle could be a bit longer but if its easier to keep it a little shorter for transportation and any con restrictions then as is is totally fine.
For all those details you could easily build that up with paper mache and gesso as well as long as you're happy to put in the hours of sanding. Getting into wet sanding on it will smooth it all out really nicely, then just lots of layers of varnish to smooth it all out nicely. Bolts and PVC tubing cut down as mentioned above, are also great ways to get all the details.

What paints are you thinking of using? Some really nice metallic car sprays would look good when its all masked off.


Thanks a lot for the advice!!!!
I have bought paint sprays and will test them before using them I think


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